The Walking Dead

[beardown07]

IMO, there has been plenty to suggest she's with the wolves, whether it be to lead us down the wrong path or not, is a different story.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

"wtf? I wuz just walkin' along, mindin' my own business..."

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That Tortoise had a history of violence.



He was on his way to murder DEA-na. He got what he deserved imo.

 

[Cyder]

The only real hole to me, is the Wolves lack of guns. After all this time they haven't accumulated a single gun? And if Enid were with them and had access to guns, why not hook em up?

I think she's a spy, that somewhat had a change of heart, but not enough to do anything about it. That's why she bailed, but there has to be some other angle with the guns.

One of the wolves that got his ass kicked by Morgan last season had a gun but no ammo. From the looks of Alexandria's arsenal it looks like they cleaned out the entire area

 

[calsnowskier]

Yep, way stupid. But I have a feeling the payoff may make us forget that fact.

No question. Looks like Ep 4 will be a doozy.

I am assuming Ep 3 will take place during the same time that Ep 2 happened, just telling the story of Rick and that half of the group. Ep 4 will be the herd hitting the ASZ.

 

[jeffro151]

I've lived in Virginia for 30 years now, and I've never seen a turtle close to that size out in the wild. Just saying.

 

[calsnowskier]

I've lived in Virginia for 30 years now, and I've never seen a turtle close to that size out in the wild. Just saying.

How about all those 1-lane tree-lined country roads?

 

[lilchi721]

I've lived in Virginia for 30 years now, and I've never seen a turtle close to that size out in the wild. Just saying.

Could've been someone's pet at one time also it's not a turtle it's a tortoise

 

[calsnowskier]

Could've been someone's pet at one time also it's not a turtle it's a tortoise

It wasn't a tortoise. It was dinner.

 

[Chef99]

"Sigh...us tortoises are so misunderstood..."

 

[lilchi721]

IMO, there has been plenty to suggest she's with the wolves, whether it be to lead us down the wrong path or not, is a different story.

What evidence? I saw no evidence that she was connected to the Wolves we already saw her backstory. The Wolves found out about Alexandria through the photo's that Aaron left behind last season at that factory that he and Darryl got surrounded by Walkers.

 

[SEC Official]

Well, Morgan's dumb ass let a group of Wolves go.. which was just stupid. If you kill them all, then the main camp has nothing to work with (intelligence, etc.). He let them go and they took at least 1 gun. That was just stupid.

I don't like his new pacifist attitude... yet he wants to get beef with someone for eating some of his food. Just stupid. Real world.. if you have lived that long.. you kill them with no second thought given what they were doing to the people there.

 

[jeffro151]

Could've been someone's pet at one time also it's not a turtle it's a tortoise

Lol, that's like correcting someone when they refer to a copperhead as just a snake.

 

[jeffro151]

Well, Morgan's dumb ass let a group of Wolves go.. which was just stupid. If you kill them all, then the main camp has nothing to work with (intelligence, etc.). He let them go and they took at least 1 gun. That was just stupid.

I don't like his new pacifist attitude... yet he wants to get beef with someone for eating some of his food. Just stupid. Real world.. if you have lived that long.. you kill them with no second thought given what they were doing to the people there.

I have a feeling the Wolves be the reason he dies. His niceness will bite him in the ass.

 

[CarlSr]

They might play the invasion off as the Wolves performing surveillance, but there's got to be a little more to it. They had the pics, so that shows that there was at least some planning involved. They also coincidentally showed up when most of the best fighters weren't there. They weren't afraid to invade without firearms, despite it being a large community.

There's too much there for the writers to go lame and have this play out as a group of savages simply stalking or getting lucky. speaking of which, BD is is right about a few things. These mofos appeared to be a little clever prior to this episode. What happened? Now their just psychotic savages? That doesn't add up. I don't think we've seen their leader yet. I think we saw the pawns doing as pawns do.

 

[calsnowskier]

That was intended to be their main attack, I think. Remember they were driving up a walker-bomb that Spencer was able to disable. They used a walker-bomb to wip out Noah's community, so that is their MO.

I really think you guys are trying to read stuff into this group that really isn't there.

 

[CarlSr]

If that was it, this show sucks dick and it's appealing to the lowest common denominator in TV viewers. They should use this opportunity to tell a story that's more than "rawr! *swing hatchet* rawr!"

I get that the base demands gore and gets pissy whenever it's not delivered. That said, the art of storytelling only makes a series that much better. Enid doesn't have to be the narc, and it would actually be cool if she wasn't, but this can't just be a group of psychos rolling up at the right time; that's just insulting. In the interest of making the show more compelling, a spy, especially an unlikely one, would make this story far more interesting.

 

[calsnowskier]

If that was it, this show sucks dick and it's appealing to the lowest common denominator in TV viewers. They should use this opportunity to tell a story that's more than "rawr! *swing hatchet* rawr!"

I get that the base demands gore and gets pissy whenever it's not delivered. That said, the art of storytelling only makes a series that much better. Enid doesn't have to be the narc, and it would actually be cool if she wasn't, but this can't just be a group of psychos rolling up at the right time; that's just insulting. In the interest of making the show more compelling, a spy, especially an unlikely one, would make this story far more interesting.

Not at all.

The group was supposed to be back by the time the attack happened. The truck fell, forcing them to move the migration forward.

Maybe the Wolves saw they were moving the walkers, so they decided to attack at that moment. OK. I can buy that. But I am more of the belief that they used the photos to find ASZ and they went in for the kill.

If Enid is a spy, then the Wolves have known about ASZ all along. Why have individuals go in before the Walker bomb? Why not go for the armory? The Wolves are "broken". The ZA basically made them crazy. They scavenge everything they can, even people. They rely on their bassist of instincts. If Rick and co. had not joined ASZ just weeks earlier, their raid would have worked, as it did in Noah's town. They have probably found that most survivors they find are just like them. Holding on by a thread and easily bum-rushed.

 

[beardown07]

What evidence? I saw no evidence that she was connected to the Wolves we already saw her backstory. The Wolves found out about Alexandria through the photo's that Aaron left behind last season at that factory that he and Darryl got surrounded by Walkers.

Did you read all that I posted? I said there was plenty to SUGGEST....I never said there was concrete evidence.

The episode is centered on Enid and the Wolves. Couple that with her complete lack of concern over the invasion, her timely departure, thereafter, and all the shady shit she's been doing while there...I'd say again, thatthere is reason to SUGGEST this.


BTW, we have no idea of the time frame of Enid's backstory, or really much about it other than her parents were killed(could've been in the very beginning, i.e., years ago) All we know is that she Just Survived Somehow. Maybe siding with the Wolves was that Somehow?

Again, her backstory intertwined with the Wolves' invasion....if nothing else the writers are leading us that way.

 

[juliansteed]

Did you read all that I posted? I said there was plenty to SUGGEST....I never said there was concrete evidence.

The episode is centered on Enid and the Wolves. Couple that with her complete lack of concern over the invasion, her timely departure, thereafter, and all the shady shit she's been doing while there...I'd say again, thatthere is reason to SUGGEST this.


BTW, we have no idea of the time frame of Enid's backstory, or really much about it other than her parents were killed(could've been in the very beginning, i.e., years ago) All we know is that she Just Survived Somehow. Maybe siding with the Wolves was that Somehow?

Again, her backstory intertwined with the Wolves' invasion....if nothing else the writers are leading us that way.

I think their pasts are likely intertwined but don't think she is working with them, at least not anymore. It wouldn't surprise me if one way or another she knows what they are all about. Perhaps she was part of Noah's family's community?

 

[mr.hockey4242]

If that was it, this show sucks dick and it's appealing to the lowest common denominator in TV viewers. They should use this opportunity to tell a story that's more than "rawr! *swing hatchet* rawr!"

I get that the base demands gore and gets pissy whenever it's not delivered. That said, the art of storytelling only makes a series that much better. Enid doesn't have to be the narc, and it would actually be cool if she wasn't, but this can't just be a group of psychos rolling up at the right time; that's just insulting. In the interest of making the show more compelling, a spy, especially an unlikely one, would make this story far more interesting.

Can you really say it only appeals to the lowest common denominator and is "appalling".

When you forgot about Morgan already meeting the wolves last season and that Aaron left the pictures behind?

It's obviously not as simple for you as you seem to keep bitching about.