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the cba explained by callis

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CHICAGO—When details of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement began trickling out, initial reaction from many scouting officials and agents was that MLB and the Players Association had killed the draft. And along with it, almost any chance small-revenue teams had to compete.

As more particulars became available, it became apparent that rumors of those deaths had been greatly exaggerated.

During the five years of the previous CBA, the draft's biggest bonus spenders were the Pirates ($52.1 million), Nationals ($51.1 million) and Royals ($45.2 million). It made sense for the have-nots to mine the draft because it's the biggest bargain in player acquisition and the only arena in which they could realistically compete with wealthy franchises.

MLB's old informal slotting system was a boon to teams that wanted to assert themselves in the draft. It all but ensured that gifted players with high price tags would fall to clubs willing to pay them.

If you look at the draft as a feast of talent, the most preferable scenario for any team is an all-you-can-eat buffet. Those days are gone, now that clubs will be assigned bonus cap space based on their picks in the first 10 rounds. They face harsh penalties if they exceed their allocation, including the loss of two first-round choices if they blow past it by 15 percent of more.

But going forward, the least fortunate clubs will have much bigger plates than other teams. Well-heeled franchises like the Red Sox (fourth in draft spending over the last five years at $44.1 million) and successful small-revenue teams such as the Rays (who gamed the old free-agent compensation system to get a record 12 picks in the first two rounds of the 2011 draft) will have have much tinier dishes than they've become accustomed to.

Pirates Can Make It Work

The Pirates destroyed several bonus records in the 2011 draft. They set a new standard for overall spending at $17 million and established new marks for bonuses for any player ($8 million to No. 1 overall choice Gerrit Cole), outside the first round ($5 million to second-rounder Josh Bell) and in the ninth round ($1.2 million to Clay Holmes). They also paid dearly for Tyler Glasnow ($600,000 in the fifth round) and Jake Burnette ($550,000 in the seventh). All told, Pittsburgh spent $16.4 million in the first 10 rounds. Under the new CBA, it would have been allocated a little over $10 million in cap space.

However, when the free-agent compensation system changes after the 2012 draft, the supplemental first round will shrink considerably and each of the Pirates' picks would have moved up 15-20 spots, giving them roughly $750,000 in extra cap room. They'll also stand a chance to win one of six competitive-balance lottery bonus choices in the sandwich round that come in to play in 2013, which would add another $1.2 million to their pool.

That would give Pittsburgh $12 million to play with, and they could spend up to 5 percent ($600,000) over that without forfeiting a first-round choice. That's workable.

The Pirates could draw the line at $7 million with Cole and $3.5 million with Bell. Sprinkle in a discount college senior or two and squeeze college juniors a bit, and they could sign all but one of its players in the first 10 rounds. If Holmes winds up attending Auburn, that only mildly detracts from a strong draft class.

By contrast, the Red Sox face a starker draft future. The most aggressive high-revenue team in the draft, they paid out $10 million in bonuses in the first 10 rounds of the 2011 draft, even with eighth-rounder Senquez Golson turning down a seven-figure offer to play football and baseball at Mississippi.

Boston would have about $8.5 million in cap space. The Sox still could land their four picks in the first and sandwich rounds, as Matt Barnes, Blake Swihart, Henry Owens and Jackie Bradley cost a combined $6.65 million. But even tightening those four bonuses a little wouldn't leave enough room to exceed the prescribed allotments for third-rounder Jordan Weems (who signed for $500,000), fourth-rounder Noe Ramirez ($625,000), fifth-rounder Mookie Betts ($750,000) and seventh-rounder Cody Kukuk ($800,000).

Under the new free-agent compensation system, the Red Sox likely would have made qualifying offers to Adrian Beltre and Victor Martinez to receive those four choices before the second round. However, unless it has elite free agents and lets them walk every year, Boston won't have extra picks.

Assuming the Red Sox continue to pick toward the bottom of the first round, they're looking at an annual draft cap around $4.5 million. That's a far cry from the $10 million they've spent in three of the last four drafts. If they sign a top free agent—more likely if they have less homegrown talent—they'll give up their first-rounder, and their cap number will drop to around $2.75 million.

Teams no longer will be able to gorge themselves on the draft to their heart's content. The less successful teams won't go hungry, but the more fortunate clubs may find themselves starving for talent.
 

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Thanks for posting that, Illinest..... interesting to say the least.

My guess is that much of the wailing and gnashing of teeth (by both Pirate fans and others) will prove to be unfounded.

On the other hand, it will be surprising if the new CBA produces no unintended consequences. Whether those unintended consequences prove to be beneficial or detrimental to the Pirates (and other small revenue teams) remains to be seen.

Most observers seem to think that the Pirates were doing well in the draft under the old CBA. (Personally, I'll defer judgement on that until some of those draftees start to contribute.) Interpretation and extension of Callis's thinking suggest that the new CBA will allow a continued advantage for teams like the Pirates (if they're competent enough to exploit it effectively), while making the draft cheaper across the board. Time will tell.
 

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Thanks for posting that, Illinest..... interesting to say the least.

My guess is that much of the wailing and gnashing of teeth (by both Pirate fans and others) will prove to be unfounded.

On the other hand, it will be surprising if the new CBA produces no unintended consequences. Whether those unintended consequences prove to be beneficial or detrimental to the Pirates (and other small revenue teams) remains to be seen.

Most observers seem to think that the Pirates were doing well in the draft under the old CBA. (Personally, I'll defer judgement on that until some of those draftees start to contribute.) Interpretation and extension of Callis's thinking suggest that the new CBA will allow a continued advantage for teams like the Pirates (if they're competent enough to exploit it effectively), while making the draft cheaper across the board. Time will tell.

qfe.

I didn't go through and check Callis' figures but as he points out that the Pirates are losing a smaller percentage than the well-off teams are losing.
I was mistaken in one regard when I initially criticized certain sports-writers for jumping to conclusions, but I am happy to note that this will NOT be an excuse for the Pirates FO to start drafting cheap again.
 

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I agree this will keep the Pirates from using the excuse to draft cheap in the future. I admit at first I thought this only good for the big markets.
 
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It will be real easy to figure out if they are being cheap, you know everyones slot total will be known to everyone.

It could get even better in the future, adding to a system is always easier than creating one. Its the 13 poorest teams for the 6 comp picks after the first round, then the ones that didnt get picks and add in every other team that got revenue sharing for the 6 after the 2nd round. They can all band together and demand an increase in balance picks in every new cba from now to the end of time.
 

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This does NOT help the Pirates, it doesn't help any team in major league baseball. Let's face facts, if a baseball player, other than a pitcher, is talented enough to be considered for future greatness in baseball, he likely has the ability to play another sport. With the new CBA, there will now be no less than 5 other sports that a young man can make more money at a younger age. Baseball as a whole is going to be losing out on very talented baseball players just because they can't make the big payday soon enough. I REALLY hope I am wrong, but I just don't think I am. I don't think every young baseball player will divert to another sport, but even if it is 1 of 10, the sport will suffer.
 
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I agree that baseball is hurting because they are losing elite athletes to other sports... But I do not think that a little bit of money is going to be the reason... Unlike other sports MLB's money is guaranteed... Players cannot be cut to trim payroll... when you get cut you still get paid. In the NFL... Players sign huge contracts and a majority of them get cut towards the end of that contract when their production starts to wane and they are being paid the most... Some NFL players want bonuses up front to make more of the money guaranteed... but the fact remains that contracts and salaries are not.

So in terms of security MLB is a good place to be employed.


I would argue that MLB is losing all these great athletes to the NFL and the NBA because MLB is no longer very popular with kids in the USA... MLB is third to the NFL and the NBA... and it is nowhere near the NFL in terms of popularity.

Another problem is the gap between college baseball and college football... College football is so hyped it is like the major leagues... Almost like the NFL..Top college programs sell out 60,000 seat stadiums ( or more) The games are all on TV and make the front page of papers nationwide... College baseball cannot compete with this, not even close.

MLB could do a lot more by working with cities and communities across the USA to make sure their are enough places to play...to help kids find a way to play with balls, bats and gloves.

I wrote a piece about some of these problems a couple years ago when MLB announced that only 7% of their players were African American..Most of the blame here lies directly on the shoulders of MLB
 

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The difference between us and the # 10 team is only 300,000. We can still be in essentially the top third of all teams in spending. Five of the teams in the top ten have 2 or 3 more selections than us. That provides no comfort I'm sure but you need to recognize that the relatively hard slotting isn't the problem - it's the fact that Bud is still giving too much weight to these compensation picks.

It's important to note that the Pirates could be getting compensation picks too if they'd ever lose a player to free agency. The Pirates reduced draft budget is at least in part due to the fact that they are consistently cheap when it comes to paying for their major league roster.


Oh and of course all of the stuff that I said months ago about the model not being sustainable anyways. You can yell at Selig if you want but it doesn't change the fact that the ride was going to come to an end very soon.


You could get mad about the fact that Nutlicker made almost 30 million dollars in 2007 and 2008, then another 5 million in 2009. The Pirates also made in excess of 12 million dollars more this year than they did the year before but I'm not hearing a lot of complaining about that.


Selective anger is what it looks like. Bud Selig doesn't do nearly as much to screw the team as their own owner does.
 

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The difference between us and the # 10 team is only 300,000. We can still be in essentially the top third of all teams in spending. Five of the teams in the top ten have 2 or 3 more selections than us. That provides no comfort I'm sure but you need to recognize that the relatively hard slotting isn't the problem - it's the fact that Bud is still giving too much weight to these compensation picks.

It's important to note that the Pirates could be getting compensation picks too if they'd ever lose a player to free agency. The Pirates reduced draft budget is at least in part due to the fact that they are consistently cheap when it comes to paying for their major league roster.


Oh and of course all of the stuff that I said months ago about the model not being sustainable anyways. You can yell at Selig if you want but it doesn't change the fact that the ride was going to come to an end very soon.


You could get mad about the fact that Nutlicker made almost 30 million dollars in 2007 and 2008, then another 5 million in 2009. The Pirates also made in excess of 12 million dollars more this year than they did the year before but I'm not hearing a lot of complaining about that.


Selective anger is what it looks like. Bud Selig doesn't do nearly as much to screw the team as their own owner does.

Until this offseason I would have had a good arguement against this, however, since we just passed up the opportunity to make a big splash in the free agent market, or at least show an effort to make a splash, I now would tend to agree with most of this.

In previous years, there has been no reasont o spend in free agency, because we were very bad. This year however, we are close. Heck, I feel like we will be competitive at least until September. Something like adding a power bat at some point over the last 2 offseasons would have gone a long way towards really giving us a shot.

I don't think we had a real shot at Pujols, or Fielder, but to come out and say you won't even try to sign them is just bad business. If nothing else gives your fans the impression that you care enough to take a shot.

So ya, even though I never was before I am now starting to slip into a similar way of thinking.
 

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The difference between us and the # 10 team is only 300,000. We can still be in essentially the top third of all teams in spending. Five of the teams in the top ten have 2 or 3 more selections than us. That provides no comfort I'm sure but you need to recognize that the relatively hard slotting isn't the problem - it's the fact that Bud is still giving too much weight to these compensation picks.

I agree the comp picks are weighted poorly, but the hard slotting system is still terrible.

It's important to note that the Pirates could be getting compensation picks too if they'd ever lose a player to free agency. The Pirates reduced draft budget is at least in part due to the fact that they are consistently cheap when it comes to paying for their major league roster.

Yes, and they have also traded away those free agents for players closer to the majors. So it has nothing to do with having impeding free agents, and everything to do with preferring trading them away in the months leading up to free agency.

Oh and of course all of the stuff that I said months ago about the model not being sustainable anyways. You can yell at Selig if you want but it doesn't change the fact that the ride was going to come to an end very soon.

The Yanks, Sox, Cubs, could have been doing whatever they wanted for years, they preferred not to, they can spend in the top 10 and still get enough guys to trade away for established veterans whenever they want.

You could get mad about the fact that Nutlicker made almost 30 million dollars in 2007 and 2008, then another 5 million in 2009. The Pirates also made in excess of 12 million dollars more this year than they did the year before but I'm not hearing a lot of complaining about that.

Irrelevant to anything being discussed in this thread.

Selective anger is what it looks like. Bud Selig doesn't do nearly as much to screw the team as their own owner does.

Selective anger?! BS, I'm angry because Selig took so much joy in curtailing "outrageous spending" by the Pirates and Nationals on the draft, he was practically giddy when discussing it. The only parties this is helping are the White Sox, and the Players Association.
 

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Baseball America | Blog | Baseball America Draft Blog | 2012 Aggregate Bonus Pools

Worse than I thought, Pirates have the 16th highest draft budget, also the lowest total in the NL Central. Go fuck yourself, Bud.

At first glance, some of those numbers DO seem counter-intuitive and inexplicable, in terms of helping competitive balance.

However, before condemning them completely, I'd like to read more about how they arrive at the numbers..... and see it work for more than one season.

It appears that there could be some kind of "running average" at work, in the sense that perhaps the Pirates, Nationals, Royals, Rays, and Diamondbacks were "penalized" for "overspending" in 2011. On the other hand, that can't be confirmed without knowing ALL the relevant factors which go into the calculation.

Having said that, it seems completely unfair to drastically reduce the Pirates spending in the primary arena where the team has been able to compete for talent AND to give us the lowest bonus pool in the NL Central. The only saving grace about the latter is that our dollars-per-draft-pick is slightly higher than the Brewers and Reds (but well below the other three teams).
 
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