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So out of curiosity, suppose Griffin cant play Friday night, Cousins gets the start and plays three quarters against the Ravens #1's on defense and actually does good? Aside from the social media frenzy, do we then still stick with the plan of Griffin as the day one starter??
 

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Boy that's a Hell of a question. If that happens there is no doubt he has earned the job. Assuming there was an open competition which apparently there is not. And because of that I believe Grudog will be forced to start Griffin but I expect a short leash.
 

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How could he not start KC if he plays well against one of the best defenses in the league? If he didn't, it would be crystal clear who was calling the shots.
 

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Hey... Im just throwing the question out there. But in reality I think even if they asked Griffin the time right now and he answered Jupiter, he is going to play Friday night. SM may not have a vested interest in RG3 one way or another, but Dan, Bruce and to an extent Jay all have dogs in this fight. So until such time as Robert either cant play, or is playing so poorly that they have no choice, its his show.
 

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I think assuming they will start Griffin if he is not medically cleared is a dangerous accusation and I don't believe it for a second. But I do believe he has been medically cleared and expect him to start.
 

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Hey... Im just throwing the question out there. But in reality I think even if they asked Griffin the time right now and he answered Jupiter, he is going to play Friday night. SM may not have a vested interest in RG3 one way or another, but Dan, Bruce and to an extent Jay all have dogs in this fight. So until such time as Robert either cant play, or is playing so poorly that they have no choice, its his show.
Unfortunately I think you are right. If KC started and played well, it would be dan and Bruce's worst nightmare. They want to avoid that situation at all costs.
 

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Having an insiders perspective on being "medically cleared" I can offer this insight. The NFL has set protocol relating to what constitutes passing an concussive event. It would be extremely unethical and an outright deliberate act of malpractice to subvert this protocol. Further, although the team's medical officer conducts and monitors the extensive , comprehensive protocol, his/her findings are then reviewed and confirmed by an independent neurological specialist from the league. Once confirmed, then and only then will the player be allowed full participation status.

Specifically to the question, if Cousins does play well on Saturday, there is nothing that prevents Griffin supporters from claiming that because of improved line play Griffin would have performed as well if not better. This is an especially salient point for team insiders and media observers who have pointed out that neither KC nor CM have distinguished themselves in camp.
 

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Shark, I hope KC gets to start Sat night and dominates that should put the nail in Rg3 coffin. Who the hell wants to pay RG3 15 mil next season? lol
 

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Shark, I hope KC gets to start Sat night and dominates that should put the nail in Rg3 coffin. Who the hell wants to pay RG3 15 mil next season? lol

It won't put a nail in a coffin that doesn't exist.........and........so far the answer to your 15 million dollar question is, Dan Snyder!
 

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so 15 million for a guy who doesn't understand pocket passing concepts. lol That a boy Danny!!! It certainly will put the nail in the coffin. I believe if KC get his chance he will run with it. Most of the fan base feels the same way.
 

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so 15 million for a guy who doesn't understand pocket passing concepts. lol That a boy Danny!!! It certainly will put the nail in the coffin. I believe if KC get his chance he will run with it. Most of the fan base feels the same way.

Maybe you're misreading the fan base, isn't it just as likely that most of the fan base can actually see KC reverting back to that deer in the headlights funk we saw when things went south a year ago?
 

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Maybe it's just me but I feel Gruden wants RG3 hurt or in tough spots so he doesn't suceed so he can start Cousins or whoever he likes at QB instead of RG3. I also believe Gruden will make sure RG3 plays against the Ravens in hopes of the above comments. Now I haven't been able to view any of the preseason games because they aren't shown in Florida but the highlights or low lights I've seen it appears cousins and McCoy have shown more upside then RG3 so far. If things continue we will be drafting in the top 5 again and hopefully taking my guy from Penn State QB Hackenberg.
 

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if 'IF " were a 5th we all would be drunk !!! so let me start out by saying i think KC does in fact move the team better ,.

but with that being said you believe that because he does well in a scripted 3rd preseason game that , that in of itself , over rides the flat failure of his starting campaign of 14 ?

these ate the hell up conspiracy theories dive me F/n nuts . gruden isnt calling plays to hurt Rg3 , OK !!!! its stupid to even bring that crap up

why cant things be simple for you people . the HC and GM want to see or prove robert is either the guy or he is not

they both want to win games

if KC has a good game vs the ones all that proves is if things go as scripted KC is fine but when the dont then we have issues

nothing will be sorted out until the regular season plays out so sit back and watch the ride

i am not sure our future is on this roster yet
 

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Watch if Griffin doesn't start he will start Colt McCoy which will piss many fans off
 

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so 15 million for a guy who doesn't understand pocket passing concepts. lol That a boy Danny!!! It certainly will put the nail in the coffin. I believe if KC get his chance he will run with it. Most of the fan base feels the same way.

Did you take a poll of most Redskins fans or are you simply basing this on some opinions here & those of your friends & family? The fact is that this is an issue where the fanbase is somewhat divided.

If I knew for a fact that Cousins would correct his issues from the past then I would say start him - 100%. However - you, me, Gruden nor anyone on the planet really knows if Cousins can correct these mistakes. I am on record as stating that I don't believe that the future QB for the Redskins is currently on the roster, but I am thrilled by improvements in other areas.

However - I would be thrilled to see Cousins or RG3 do well this season. Unlike you - I am rooting for the team and not simply certain players. The season is long & as fans we need to wait for at least half of the real season before coming to any valid conclusions on any of this.
 

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Did you take a poll of most Redskins fans or are you simply basing this on some opinions here & those of your friends & family? The fact is that this is an issue where the fanbase is somewhat divided.

If I knew for a fact that Cousins would correct his issues from the past then I would say start him - 100%. However - you, me, Gruden nor anyone on the planet really knows if Cousins can correct these mistakes. I am on record as stating that I don't believe that the future QB for the Redskins is currently on the roster, but I am thrilled by improvements in other areas.

However - I would be thrilled to see Cousins or RG3 do well this season. Unlike you - I am rooting for the team and not simply certain players. The season is long & as fans we need to wait for at least half of the real season before coming to any valid conclusions on any of this.

yeah dean is about certain players and not the team . last season he openly wished a guy would get hurt so "his " guy" could play
 

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Of course I am about the team. I just don't see any improvement out of RG3. I don't have "guys". I like to see player who are better play. Rg3 draft status is the only reason why he is still in the starting QB conversation. Would we even be talking about him if he was a regular 1st or 2nd round pick?
 

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Of course I am about the team. I just don't see any improvement out of RG3. I don't have "guys". I like to see player who are better play. Rg3 draft status is the only reason why he is still in the starting QB conversation. Would we even be talking about him if he was a regular 1st or 2nd round pick?

and your point is what ? your boy blew his shot when he had it and now he has to wait for another . again preason is what it is . KC does well with a script vs janitors and walmart greeters but he can win real NFL games . that is on record , the rest is speculation
 

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So out of curiosity, suppose Griffin cant play Friday night, Cousins gets the start and plays three quarters against the Ravens #1's on defense and actually does good? Aside from the social media frenzy, do we then still stick with the plan of Griffin as the day one starter??

If it ever existed, I would have to think any FO pressure to play RG3 is gone now...I really don't expect Cousins to sustain it for 16 games...at some point this circles back to RG3...if he plays okay in that stint...kinda back to square one next year.

I for one do not believe that Gruden/RG3 is going to work, (no HC puts his QB1 in a preseason game behind a LT that most likely is not going to make the team) you just don't do that.

On the flip, I'm no longer sure RG3 really does have the skills or the body to play in this league.
 

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Skinsdad whos trade value is higher right now Cousins or Rg3? So Rg3 blew last year. What is your point? KC gives our team the best chance to win. Simple as that.
 
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