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Reds Place Ramon Hernandez On Waivers: MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

About damn time!

Hopefully no one blocks us and Sabean can get it done.

I can't think of any team with the ability to block the Giants that would have the desire to do so. Being two games back might be a blessing in disguise. Of course, nabbing Ramon Hernandez wouldn't solve all of the Giants' problems, but he would certainly be a marked improvement. Between blocking the D-backs and Phillies from getting Bell and (possibly) getting Hernandez, Sabean can chalk this up as a pretty good August. Beyond getting a solid lead-off hitter (which is only debatable as to whether that is open to him), I don't know what else he could do.
 

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I can't think of any team with the ability to block the Giants that would have the desire to do so. Being two games back might be a blessing in disguise. Of course, nabbing Ramon Hernandez wouldn't solve all of the Giants' problems, but he would certainly be a marked improvement. Between blocking the D-backs and Phillies from getting Bell and (possibly) getting Hernandez, Sabean can chalk this up as a pretty good August. Beyond getting a solid lead-off hitter (which is only debatable as to whether that is open to him), I don't know what else he could do.

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I'm no expert on the details of the rules around this. But at the risk of sounding pantshattacious, MLBTradeRumors is not high on our chances of signing either Bell or Hernandez:


Waiver Rumors: Bell, White Sox, Reds, Wright
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [August 24 at 4:04pm CST]

The waiver wire is heating up with one week remaining for teams to trade for postseason reinforcements. Here’s a refresher on how August trades work and here are the latest rumors...

It appears unlikely that the Giants, who won the claim on Heath Bell, will complete a trade for the reliever, Jon Heyman of SI.com reports (on Twitter).
Though the Padres would find if difficult to accept a weak offer for Bell, it might beat the alternative of keeping him and potentially paying him big money in 2012, Ken Rosenthal writes at FOX Sports.

The Giants are a fit for the recently waived Ramon Hernandez, but the catcher will likely be a Type A free agent so a different team could claim him for draft picks, ESPN.com's Buster Olney notes (on Twitter).

MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com
 

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I'm no expert on the details of the rules around this. But at the risk of sounding pantshattacious, MLBTradeRumors is not high on our chances of signing either Bell or Hernandez:


Waiver Rumors: Bell, White Sox, Reds, Wright
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [August 24 at 4:04pm CST]

The waiver wire is heating up with one week remaining for teams to trade for postseason reinforcements. Here’s a refresher on how August trades work and here are the latest rumors...

It appears unlikely that the Giants, who won the claim on Heath Bell, will complete a trade for the reliever, Jon Heyman of SI.com reports (on Twitter).
Though the Padres would find if difficult to accept a weak offer for Bell, it might beat the alternative of keeping him and potentially paying him big money in 2012, Ken Rosenthal writes at FOX Sports.

The Giants are a fit for the recently waived Ramon Hernandez, but the catcher will likely be a Type A free agent so a different team could claim him for draft picks, ESPN.com's Buster Olney notes (on Twitter).

MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

I don't expect us to be able to pick up Bell. I really don't like the concept of trading away Wheeler, Neal, and Brown/Surkamp all in one season.
 

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I don't expect us to be able to pick up Bell. I really don't like the concept of trading away Wheeler, Neal, and Brown/Surkamp all in one season.

I would not trade Brown OR Surkamp for Bell.

However, Hembree + Joseph I think has a decent shot of getting it done. The Giants willingness to be serious players in the draft over the last few years (and the Pads complete bust-i-tude in the draft) tells me that the Giants would be willing to go this steep, but that it would likely not need to be at this level.
 

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I would not trade Brown OR Surkamp for Bell.

However, Hembree + Joseph I think has a decent shot of getting it done. The Giants willingness to be serious players in the draft over the last few years (and the Pads complete bust-i-tude in the draft) tells me that the Giants would be willing to go this steep, but that it would likely not need to be at this level.

I would hate to trade either of them as well; then again I have a tendency to overvalue our prospects and

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I'm no expert on the details of the rules around this. But at the risk of sounding pantshattacious, MLBTradeRumors is not high on our chances of signing either Bell or Hernandez:

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Bell was a straight up block.

Hernandez will be a type A, but no one in their right mind would offer him arb, because he would accept in a heart beat. His salary would double based on his past production, and a 35 yr old back up catcher is not worth 6-7mil a year.

Even if he didn't accept the arb, no team will be dumb enough to sacrifice a first round pick for him.

Same crap happened with Molina in 09 and last year. He was a type A, but no was going to throw away a first round pick for 2 years of a catcher on the wrong side of 35.
 

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Do you think the Giants could have gotten Pence/Bourn/Barmes/Keppinger/Quintero for Wheeler/Brown/Hembree/Surkamp/Peguero/Neal/Joseph/Sosa/Stoffel? Obviously, there would be some roster spot issues. Hindsight being 20/20, would you make that trade?
 

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Do you think the Giants could have gotten Pence/Bourn/Barmes/Keppinger/Quintero for Wheeler/Brown/Hembree/Surkamp/Peguero/Neal/Joseph/Sosa/Stoffel? Obviously, there would be some roster spot issues. Hindsight being 20/20, would you make that trade?

And what if Pence got hurt like tron, and Bourn went on the DL like torres ect...

Its easy to play the what if game, but at some point we just have to say enough is enough. We cant just keep trying to slap bandaids on our line up and hope for the best.
 

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And what if Pence got hurt like tron, and Bourn went on the DL like torres ect...

Its easy to play the what if game, but at some point we just have to say enough is enough. We cant just keep trying to slap bandaids on our line up and hope for the best.

I agree. I was just curious because it is starting to look like Sabean is willing to give up many more prospects than we thought he would at the beginning of the season. Of course, that was before the injuries. I was just wondering if others thought that package was possible based on what the Astros got, and it would be nice to have quality players under team control for awhile.
 

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I'm no expert on the details of the rules around this. But at the risk of sounding pantshattacious, MLBTradeRumors is not high on our chances of signing either Bell or Hernandez:


Waiver Rumors: Bell, White Sox, Reds, Wright
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [August 24 at 4:04pm CST]

The waiver wire is heating up with one week remaining for teams to trade for postseason reinforcements. Here’s a refresher on how August trades work and here are the latest rumors...

It appears unlikely that the Giants, who won the claim on Heath Bell, will complete a trade for the reliever, Jon Heyman of SI.com reports (on Twitter).
Though the Padres would find if difficult to accept a weak offer for Bell, it might beat the alternative of keeping him and potentially paying him big money in 2012, Ken Rosenthal writes at FOX Sports.

The Giants are a fit for the recently waived Ramon Hernandez, but the catcher will likely be a Type A free agent so a different team could claim him for draft picks, ESPN.com's Buster Olney notes (on Twitter).

MLB Rumors - MLBTradeRumors.com

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