Question about Stafford

[lionstop1]

Question:

Lately, I've seen some relatively lame comments made about Stafford and a supposed inability to go through his progressions. This is so far from the truth, its not even funny. I see a different QB, one that has lead his team and corrected a lot of habits. On top of that, he has a very inconsistent Wr core and I would image how hard it is to trust those guys. Somebody please tell me how he isn't going through progressions?

I'm guessing either a few guys don't like Stafford and need a reason to say crap or its because Stafford has been relying on Bush as the "second" option out there regularly. Doesn't seem to be a problem to me. It also looks as if Staff made Durham look half-way decent today, right? Fauria too? Edwards missed his chance.

 

[broncosmitty]

You like Staff a lot more than I ever will Yao.

 

[themuzzer]

 

[themuzzer]

Damn you smitty, I was agreeing with Yao and you jumped in before me.

 

[broncosmitty]

Looks like you were agreeing with me, to me.

 

[lionstop1]

Staff is a real deal QB under suspect coaching staff. I'm waiting for certain people to answer these questions.

 

[Quackerjacked]

Stafford has been playing awesome. It just took a half for the rest of the guys to stop dropping his passes.

 

[LPinSLC]

Looks like people have a hard time enjoying a good QB. how many QB's would you honestly rather have(Name Each One)?

 

[LPinSLC]

Stafford is a Fucking Pimp! Find something else to conplain about....

 

[lionstop1]

What Qb do you like Smit-tay?

 

[themuzzer]

Stafford is a Fucking Pimp! Find something else to conplain about....

 

[themuzzer]

I want to complain about our punting but I can't......So I'm left with Akers......He blows goat nuts.

 

[lionstop1]

Oh, and I forgot to mention that his side-arm throws are pretty pimp-like too!

 

[broncosmitty]

Staff is a real deal QB under suspect coaching staff. I'm waiting for certain people to answer these questions.

I don't know where this stance comes from. Other than a desire to have a real deal QB on the Lions. He missed most of his first two seasons. Had a big year in 2011. Stunk to high heaven last year, with lots of meaningless yards. (And I mean LOTS, plus a lot of picks)And is 4-2 this season, his fifth as a starter, which is nice. He's far from proven anything in this league. He lacks patience. He checks down quicker than Id like. Which could be scheme, but seems like a mutual situation. Much was made earlier of Staff hitting multiple receivers. This doesn't show me that he's working thru progressions. It shows me that the play book calls for different options as #1 targets on different plays in different situations. BP, Bell, Bush, and several times Ogletree and Durham were check down options, and they got they ball within two an half seconds of the snap. When Staff was asked to throw downfield, he underthrew an open Edwards badly. Then later got picked at the goaline throwing into double coverage. (Edwards also failed to come up with another deep throw). What bothers me the most about our highly talented, young, possibly rising star, is he has been given more than he has earned during his tenure. From fans,(which is the case with this thread), from the team,(the starting job as a rookie, captain status, his recent extension) from advertisers(Axe, some tire company, JCPenny, The SixthSense box set..,) and at times from the talking heads. He's very talented. But take away his stats with Calvin Johnson and tell me he's raised the games of other players around him. Show me when he's pump faked a safety off a receiver, show me a signature win over a team he wasn't supposed to beat(the browns when he got hurt doesn't count, they're the Browns). It bothers me how a majority of Lions fans can bitch and bitch about Linehan, Schwartz, Mayhew, Lewand, and anyone else with years of experience, yet they blindly have faith in Matthew Stafford. And more than just faith, they have somehow decided Staff is above most QBs. Guys like Romo, Cutler, Palmer, Rivers, Dalton, Schaub, Flacco, Bradford, hell even Alex Smith. It's my opinion that he could be better than all of them. But right now, there's nothing factual that would lead me to say that he is. Other than Im a Lions fan. And any comparison to Favre is not going to met with rave reviews from me. That guy screwed his team(teams) as much as he helped them by not refining his game over the years. He was a gunslinger. And those are not reliable, they win games just like they lose them. I'm not interested in Staff the gunslinger, I'm interested in a refined Staff. Who eventually expands his game. Rather than shrinks it. Which is what, IMO, has been going on this season with the glut of short yardage passes.

 

[Coach_Ed_LPW]

Staff is one of the best in the league. He can make any throw. He is still getting better...it's a tough league there is no QB I would rather have as ours. Eventually he will get us there, he still needs more reliable receivers...wish we could trade for Blackmon. People are always gonna hate. I dont.

 

[Coach_Ed_LPW]

). What bothers me the most about our highly talented, young, possibly rising star, is he has been given more than he has earned during his tenur

5000 yards and 41 TD's give lots of credit. How many QB's have done that? Not to mention being cold as ice in the clutch and leading the team to how many 4th Q comebacks? He's our guy. What do you expect from him at this point in his career?

 

[broncosmitty]

Looks like people have a hard time enjoying a good QB. how many QB's would you honestly rather have(Name Each One)?

That's a trick question though. Staff has a lot of upside. Guys like Brady, Manning, Big Ben, Brees and even Romo are already 30, or well into their thirties. Arodg is pushing 30, Alex Smith isn't far behind. I can't say Id rather have Cam Newton, cuz I wouldn't. But most Panthers fans prolly wouldn't rather have Staff. Can't say Id rather have RGIII, Russel Wilson or CK in San Fran. Doubt their fans would be eager for a switcharoo. So quick answer, Andrew Luck, that's it. And Aaron Rodgers if Im going to be honest. And maybe Brees, even though he's no spring chicken and I don't care for him much anymore.

 

[broncosmitty]

5000 yards and 41 TD's give lots of credit. How many QB's have done that? Not to mention being cold as ice in the clutch and leading the team to how many 4th Q comebacks? He's our guy. What do you expect from him at this point in his career?

4-12 man. 4-12. I'd be happy with 3,200 yards 17 TDs and half the picks if it meant a chance at the playoffs. Those yards, Staffs and CJs, were absolutely meaningless, and mostly given away pre-RedZone.

 

[black_magic]

It seems to me that he decides who he is going to throw to before the play even starts. Whether it be a quick slant, or a deep ball. That deep ball to patrick edwards today that was intercepted should never have been thrown. Then there was a quick pass to Durham which durham didnt even know was coming to him. Thats why the RB's and the TEs always get so many catches/targets, and the receivers dont. If his one receiver isnt open, he checks down to a receiver or an RB. Was Broyles even targeted today? What about Ogletree?

 

[black_magic]

Now, im not ripping him. I still love the pimp, I just dont like this aspect of his game