Quality Start Numbers from Last Year

[PolarVortex]

Last season the Mariners got 90 quality starts from their rotation. They went 59-31 in those games and 26-46 in the remaining 72 games. There's an eye-opener (not really). Imagine the record they might have had with a league-average offense. I would think 95-67 at a minimum.
Logan Gilbert. 33 starts, 22 QS, 9 UQS (an ultra quality start is 7+ innings of 2 earned runs or less)
Bryce Miller. 30 starts, 18 QS, 7 UQS
George Kirby. 33 starts, 20 QS, 6 UQS
Luis Castillo. 30 starts, 18 QS, 4 UQS
Bryan Woo. 22 starts, 10 QS, 3 UQS
Emerson Hancock. 12 starts, 4 QS, 1 UQS
Jhonathon Diaz. 1 start 0 QS, 0 UQS

 

[NWinAZ]

Last season the Mariners got 90 quality starts from their rotation. They went 59-31 in those games and 26-46 in the remaining 72 games. There's an eye-opener (not really). Imagine the record they might have had with a league-average offense. I would think 95-67 at a minimum.
Logan Gilbert. 33 starts, 22 QS, 9 UQS (an ultra quality start is 7+ innings of 2 earned runs or less)
Bryce Miller. 30 starts, 18 QS, 7 UQS
George Kirby. 33 starts, 20 QS, 6 UQS
Luis Castillo. 30 starts, 18 QS, 4 UQS
Bryan Woo. 22 starts, 10 QS, 3 UQS
Emerson Hancock. 12 starts, 4 QS, 1 UQS
Jhonathon Diaz. 1 start 0 QS, 0 UQS

The life of a Mariners fan. 'What if'. I remember saying the same thing back in '95 but in reverse. 'What if' we had starting pitching. These losers will never build a complete team unless it is by luck like in 2001.

 

[PolarVortex]

The life of a Mariners fan. 'What if'. I remember saying the same thing back in '95 but in reverse. 'What if' we had starting pitching. These losers will never build a complete team unless it is by luck like in 2001.

Logan Gilbert is the guy I feel the worst for. He went 9-12 last year despite 22 quality starts and 9 ultra quality starts.
He would have been a 22-game winner on the Dodgers
A 20-game winner on the Yankees.
A 19-game winner on the Phillies.
An 18-game winner on the Braves, Brewers, Mets, Padres, Astros, D-Backs

I remember Felix going through seasons like that early in his career. It was frustrating to watch. I hope Gilbert doesn't get saddled with this team for his entire prime like Felix did.

 

[Anointed One]

Logan Gilbert is the guy I feel the worst for. He went 9-12 last year despite 22 quality starts and 9 ultra quality starts.
He would have been a 22-game winner on the Dodgers
A 20-game winner on the Yankees.
A 19-game winner on the Phillies.
An 18-game winner on the Braves, Brewers, Mets, Padres, Astros, D-Backs

I remember Felix going through seasons like that early in his career. It was frustrating to watch. I hope Gilbert doesn't get saddled with this team for his entire prime like Felix did.

Yeah, I think Felix broke a record for losing games 1-0 or 2-1

 

[wazzu31]

It is really sad that they lost 31 games with QS. But hey, they are a top 10 offense

 

[NWinAZ]

Logan Gilbert is the guy I feel the worst for. He went 9-12 last year despite 22 quality starts and 9 ultra quality starts.
He would have been a 22-game winner on the Dodgers
A 20-game winner on the Yankees.
A 19-game winner on the Phillies.
An 18-game winner on the Braves, Brewers, Mets, Padres, Astros, D-Backs

I remember Felix going through seasons like that early in his career. It was frustrating to watch. I hope Gilbert doesn't get saddled with this team for his entire prime like Felix did.

Felix would be preparing his HOF speech right now if they didn't fail him.

 

[kcden]

Last season the Mariners got 90 quality starts from their rotation. They went 59-31 in those games and 26-46 in the remaining 72 games. There's an eye-opener (not really). Imagine the record they might have had with a league-average offense. I would think 95-67 at a minimum.
Logan Gilbert. 33 starts, 22 QS, 9 UQS (an ultra quality start is 7+ innings of 2 earned runs or less)
Bryce Miller. 30 starts, 18 QS, 7 UQS
George Kirby. 33 starts, 20 QS, 6 UQS
Luis Castillo. 30 starts, 18 QS, 4 UQS
Bryan Woo. 22 starts, 10 QS, 3 UQS
Emerson Hancock. 12 starts, 4 QS, 1 UQS
Jhonathon Diaz. 1 start 0 QS, 0 UQS

I just went through trying to get ChatGPT to give me some info on Quality Starts vs. team winning %... that looks like we were almost perfectly on the # for the data it analyzed. From 1957 to 2006, teams won ~67.5% of their games in which their starter recorded a QS (59-31 is 65.6%). In 2011, teams lost ~63% of the games when their SP didn't record a QS (26-46 is losing 63.9% of your games). Maybe what we really need is better pitching and fielding

 

[PolarVortex]

I just went through trying to get ChatGPT to give me some info on Quality Starts vs. team winning %... that looks like we were almost perfectly on the # for the data it analyzed. From 1957 to 2006, teams won ~67.5% of their games in which their starter recorded a QS (59-31 is 65.6%). In 2011, teams lost ~63% of the games when their SP didn't record a QS (26-46 is losing 63.9% of your games). Maybe what we really need is better pitching and fielding

I don't how we could have had a much better rotation. We certainly could have used a better bullpen. Jersey even had a thread about the games that got away from us in late innings that we should have won. If we had last year's rotation and the bullpen from 2023 we not only would have been in the playoffs, we would probably have won the division.

 

[kcden]

I don't how we could have had a much better rotation. We certainly could have used a better bullpen. Jersey even had a thread about the games that got away from us in late innings that we should have won. If we had last year's rotation and the bullpen from 2023 we not only would have been in the playoffs, we would probably have won the division.

My last sentence was somewhat tongue-in-cheek... I was just surprised to see that (based on readily available data), our W/L numbers for QS vs. no QS were right in line with what they should have been. I'm curious if we just had significantly more home QS than road... I would guess the answer to that is yes, but that's a data point that I don't see readily available.

 

[wazzu31]

I just went through trying to get ChatGPT to give me some info on Quality Starts vs. team winning %... that looks like we were almost perfectly on the # for the data it analyzed. From 1957 to 2006, teams won ~67.5% of their games in which their starter recorded a QS (59-31 is 65.6%). In 2011, teams lost ~63% of the games when their SP didn't record a QS (26-46 is losing 63.9% of your games). Maybe what we really need is better pitching and fielding

Fielding is something that isn’t being talked about. LF, 3B, SS and 1B all for sure are going to be below average to bad fielders. Not sure on the numbers but Robles doesn’t look very good defensively at least in RF. Moore is supposedly a gold glover but Bliss and Young are question marks at 2B. So basically Cal and Julio, so hopefully the pitchers set strikeout records or everyone hits it Julio or back to the pitcher.