Plate appearances for 2012 - 1B, LF CF, RF

[Mays-Fan]

Giants | Trio will get looks in RF during spring

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:55:35 -0800

San Francisco Giants 1Bs Brandon Belt, Aubrey Huff and Brett Pill will get time in right field during the spring, competing with OF Nate Schierholtz for the starting job.

Read more: KFFL - San Francisco Giants News and Notes

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Just thinking - according to last year's stats:

2011 San Francisco Giants Batting, Pitching, & Fielding Statistics - Baseball-Reference.com

As a team we had 6091 plate appearances. Divide that by nine and one gets 677 PAs per spot in the batting order. Multiply that by 4 for the 1B, LF, CF, and RF spots and one gets 2708. Then divide that by 6 for each of Pagan, Melky, Nate, Huffer, Belt, and Pill, and one gets appx 450 PA's for each of these 6. This does not include PH appearances batting mostly for pitchers, or DHing for interleague games, however it does not exclude PA's in those positions by other players (eg, Posey at 1B, or Gary Brown in CF, etc). Also this number is not skewed higher (it probably should be) to account for the fact that the higher the position in the batting order, the more PAs it gets.

In 2011, Melky had 706 PAs, Huff 579, Pagan 532, Nate 362, Belt 209, Pill 53 for a total of 2441.

Obviously we expect Belt to get many more PA's, and I would hope Pill does as well. I would expect Melky's to come down (he had a bit of a career year last year) and Huff's to ease a bit as well.

If 2700 was the total number for these 6, I would expect something like 600 for Melky, Huff 500, Pagan 550, Nate 350, Belt 400, and Pill 300.

Obviously, these are complete guesstimations on my part, but I think it shows these six will get enough PAs to keep them happy. But there will be some competition among them for these PAs, and that is a very good thing.

 

[mistgl]

Giants | Trio will get looks in RF during spring

Fri, 24 Feb 2012 18:55:35 -0800

San Francisco Giants 1Bs Brandon Belt, Aubrey Huff and Brett Pill will get time in right field during the spring, competing with OF Nate Schierholtz for the starting job.

Read more: KFFL - San Francisco Giants News and Notes

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Just thinking - according to last year's stats:

2011 San Francisco Giants Batting, Pitching, & Fielding Statistics - Baseball-Reference.com

As a team we had 6091 plate appearances. Divide that by nine and one gets 677 PAs per spot in the batting order. Multiply that by 4 for the 1B, LF, CF, and RF spots and one gets 2708. Then divide that by 6 for each of Pagan, Melky, Nate, Huffer, Belt, and Pill, and one gets appx 450 PA's for each of these 6. This does not include PH appearances batting mostly for pitchers, or DHing for interleague games, however it does not exclude PA's in those positions by other players (eg, Posey at 1B, or Gary Brown in CF, etc). Also this number is not skewed higher (it probably should be) to account for the fact that the higher the position in the batting order, the more PAs it gets.

In 2011, Melky had 706 PAs, Huff 579, Pagan 532, Nate 362, Belt 209, Pill 53 for a total of 2441.

Obviously we expect Belt to get many more PA's, and I would hope Pill does as well. I would expect Melky's to come down (he had a bit of a career year last year) and Huff's to ease a bit as well.

If 2700 was the total number for these 6, I would expect something like 600 for Melky, Huff 500, Pagan 550, Nate 350, Belt 400, and Pill 300.

Obviously, these are complete guesstimations on my part, but I think it shows these six will get enough PAs to keep them happy. But there will be some competition among them for these PAs, and that is a very good thing.

Not to be a Nate or Pill hater, but both are secondary to this teams success imo. Nate is an average, if that, right fielder who lives off defense and a borderline bat. A God damn wall, and ones ability to play the 1 out of 1000
balls that hit off it should not = a guaranteed job. Pill is a wild card, but even taking his brief stint into account, far better analyst than us still don't think he's anything special. If he makes the team out of ST, it's as a RH bat off the bench at most.

Melky, Pagan, and Huff are going to receive more than their fair chances to succeed. The former represent trades that the FO is selling as the missing pieces we need. Don't be surprised if our starting day outfield is Huff/Pagan/Melky with Belt at 1B, and Pill back to AAA.

 

[msgkings322]

Let's hope the '5 guys playing 3 positions' thing doesn't mess up anyone's production.

There was a lot of talk about how we jerked around Belt last year and mishandled him so he wasn't as good as he could have been. Is he one of those guys that needs to know they are playing every day?

 

[Mays-Fan]

Not to be a Nate or Pill hater, but both are secondary to this teams success imo. Nate is an average, if that, right fielder who lives off defense and a borderline bat. A God damn wall, and ones ability to play the 1 out of 1000
balls that hit off it should not = a guaranteed job. Pill is a wild card, but even taking his brief stint into account, far better analyst than us still don't think he's anything special. If he makes the team out of ST, it's as a RH bat off the bench at most.

Melky, Pagan, and Huff are going to receive more than their fair chances to succeed. The former represent trades that the FO is selling as the missing pieces we need. Don't be surprised if our starting day outfield is Huff/Pagan/Melky with Belt at 1B, and Pill back to AAA.

I hear you about Nate and Pill, and I don't disagree. However, I am an optimist. Nate had a very decent OPS of .807 before the AS break. Then he broke his foot and only had .654 OPS in limited time after. Of course, CarBel had something to do with that limited time, too. I would like to see what Nate can do at the plate if he stays healthy. And don't forget, Nate has some speed and a cannon for an arm as well.

And Pill had an .881 OPS in his 53 PAs. Obviously a SSS, but .881 is .881. That would likely drop once pitchers figured him out (or maybe not!), but that type of hitting should earn him some more chances, esp if we continue to hit poorly.