Pick 152 (R5) - DT Matt Ioannidis

[redskinsfan]

I will go with 110 average.

I thought he meant 150 yards over the first three games. That's an average of 50 yds per game. Not too bad.

 

[Sharkinva]

I haven't done a play by play review of last season, but what I recall a whole lot was opposing teams running on us by attacking our outside zones, which really are problems involving our LBs and safeties. Also, before he got injured last year, Paea was having a good year.

He averaged 1.7 tackles per game and had a total of 1.5 sacks... thats a really low bar dont you think??

 

[Sharkinva]

I thought he meant 150 yards over the first three games. That's an average of 50 yds per game. Not too bad.

150 yards PER game. Im not going to be shocked if Dallas rushes for 200+ on us in week two actually.

 

[gkekoa]

We gave up 122 a game last year, we have gotten worse on the line. Yet you seriously think we will improve??

Yes I do. And I don't think we have gotten worse. Pot Roast was bad and Hatcher was worse.

 

[Sharkinva]

Yes I do. And I don't think we have gotten worse. Pot Roast was bad and Hatcher was worse.

Really??? Paea averaged less than two tackles a game and is at best a backup. Same for Reyes which is where I expect him to play.. as a backup behind Baker.

Throw in Goldsons STELLAR 10 tackles total.....

Damn I get goose bumps over those production numbers.

 

[redskinsfan]

He averaged 1.7 tackles per game and had a total of 1.5 sacks... thats a really low bar dont you think??

He was getting into the backfield and those numbers reflect the fact that he got hurt early on. Hopefully he can bounce back and contribute.

 

[Sharkinva]

He was getting into the backfield and those numbers reflect the fact that he got hurt early on. Hopefully he can bounce back and contribute.

He didnt do dick. And he played in 11 games. So no he didnt get hurt early. I agree he can contribute as a backup.... sadly we are going to make him a starter. And 1.5 sacks over 11 games does not make me think of this great disruptive pass rusher.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Oh I agree with you, there is no doubt several DL in this draft are better than what we have. That's not the issue. The issue is were those DL the best players available when it was our turn. You seem to think it doesn't matter that there were better players available with such a need. Our GM doesn't think this way.

I was kind of hoping Shark would address this post.

 

[redskinsfan]

He didnt do dick. And he played in 11 games. So no he didnt get hurt early. I agree he can contribute as a backup.... sadly we are going to make him a starter. And 1.5 sacks over 11 games does not make me think of this great disruptive pass rusher.

He did get hurt early like Culliver did but kept playing until he had to go on the IR

 

[Sharkinva]

I was kind of hoping Shark would address this post.

Since you asked... I do think there were BETTER players on the D-line available when we took Cravens. I will also say, while i like the Doctson pick in a bubble... this was more of a need pick than a best player available. I think we took him because we needed a WR with some size, and thought Robinson, Reed, or one of the other starting D-lineman would be there when we picked at 53.

Again... if we totally ignore the fact that our D-line sucks ass at the moment, we have had an awesome draft from a talent stand point.

But our D-line does suck hot sweaty New York Transit Authority worker ass at the moment.

 

[Sharkinva]

He did get hurt early like Culliver did but kept playing until he had to go on the IR

Lets say you are right, he got hurt early.

Even when he was healthy... he was average at best.

 

[gkekoa]

Since you asked... I do think there were BETTER players on the D-line available when we took Cravens. I will also say, while i like the Doctson pick in a bubble... this was more of a need pick than a best player available. I think we took him because we needed a WR with some size, and thought Robinson, Reed, or one of the other starting D-lineman would be there when we picked at 53.

Again... if we totally ignore the fact that our D-line sucks ass at the moment, we have had an awesome draft from a talent stand point.

But our D-line does suck hot sweaty New York Transit Authority worker ass at the moment.

So you think Doctson was a need pick? Who do you think we had over him?

 

[gkekoa]

Lets say you are right, he got hurt early.

Even when he was healthy... he was average at best.

Average is fine.

 

[skinsdad62]

the d/line has gotten younger and more athletic but that is it

 

[redskinsfan]

Lets say you are right, he got hurt early.

Even when he was healthy... he was average at best.

No, he was producing early on. He like Culliver struggled through injuries until both couldn't go / got seriously injured and were put on IR.

 

[Sharkinva]

So you think Doctson was a need pick? Who do you think we had over him?

WHo I think we should have had over him.... I have given you the names, and all played on the D-line. I think Doctson was a need pick and made more of a need because of the lack of depth at his position in this draft.

I think like Dean, many thought a few of the starting caliber D-lineman would be there for us at 53. When that failed they did in fact go on talent and took Cravens.

 

[gkekoa]

WHo I think we should have had over him.... I have given you the names, and all played on the D-line. I think Doctson was a need pick and made more of a need because of the lack of depth at his position in this draft.

I think like Dean, many thought a few of the starting caliber D-lineman would be there for us at 53. When that failed they did in fact go on talent and took Cravens.

All those teams that passed between us and when they were selected should speak louder to the ability of those DL.

We took BPA at22 and it was a need position.

 

[Sharkinva]

All those teams that passed between us and when they were selected should speak louder to the ability of those DL.

We took BPA at22 and it was a need position.

We took a need player at 22 because we thought the D-lineman would slide to the second round.

 

[gkekoa]

We took a need player at 22 because we thought the D-lineman would slide to the second round.

Not even reasonable. If that were the case, teams would have been clamoring for your DL. This is exactly what you complain about with Dean.

 

[redskinsfan]

Not even reasonable. If that were the case, teams would have been clamoring for your DL. This is exactly what you complain about with Dean.

Yep. You can generally say that this class of dline men were pretty overrated especially people like Robinson, Reed, and Billings.