PFF's Top 5 Bottom 5 through week 8

[clyde_carbon]

QB

Best
1. Tom Brady
2. Eli Manning
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Matt Ryan
5. Ben Roethlisberger

Worst
1. Ryan Fitzpatrick
2. John Skelton
3. Brandon Weeden
4. Mark Sanchez
5. Andy Dalton


RB

Best
1. Adrian Peterson
2. CJ Spiller
3t. Pierre Thomas
3t. Ray Rice
5. Alfred Morris

Worst
1. Darren McFadden
2. BenJarvus Green-Ellis
3. Shaun Draughn
4. Daniel Thomas
5. Shonn Greene


WR

Best
1. Percy Harvin
2. Reggie Wayne
3. Roddy White
4. Vincent Jackson
5. Brandon Marshall

Worst
1. Early Doucet
2. Mike Thomas
3. Greg Little
4. Robert Meachem
5. Armon Binns


TE

Best
1. Rob Gronkowski
2. Vernon Davis
3. Heath Miller
4. Dwayne Allen
5. Marcedes Lewis

Worst
1. Jermaine Gresham
2. Konrad Reuland
3. Brandon Myers
4. Tony Moeaki
5. Jeff King


FB

Best
1. Henry Hynoski (NYG)
2t. Jerome Felton (MIN)
2t. James Casey (HOU)
4. Marcel Reece (OAK)
5. Vontae Leach (BAL)

Worst
1. Lex Hilliard (NYJ)
2. Lousaka Polite (ATL)
3. Owen Marecic (CLV)
4. Le'Ron McClain (SD)
5. Anthony Sherman (ARZ)


OT

Best
1. Duane Brown
2. Joe Staley
3. Ryan Clady
4. Branden Albert
5. Sebastian Volmer

Worst
1. D'Anthony Batiste (ARZ) (Just to give you an idea of how bad these two have been playing according to PFF, Batiste has a -39 grade, Massie has a -24 grade. Next worst OT is only -14...)
2. Bobby Massie (ARZ)
3t. Demetress Bell (PHI)
3t. Michael Harris (SD)
5. Willie Smith

OG

Best
1. Evan Mathis
2. Marshal Yanda
3. Mike Iupati
4. Alex Boone
5. Rob Sims

Worst
1. Adam Snyder (ARZ)
2. Jeff Allen (KC)
3. Amini Silatolu (CAR)
4. Eben Britton (JAX)
5. Quinn Ojinnaka (STL)


C

Best
1. Mike Pouncey (MIA)
2. John Sullivan (MIN)
3. Jonathan Goodwin (SF)
4. Chris Myers
5. Will Montgomery (WAS)

Worst
1. Jeff Faine (CIN)
2. Dallas Reynolds (PHI)
3. Brad Meester (JAX)
4. Lyle Sendlein (ARZ)
5. Jeff Saturday


4-3 DE

Best
1. Cameron Wake (His grade is higher than #2’ and #3’s grade combined)
2. Chandler Jones
3. Brian Robison
4. Jason Pierre-Paul
5. John Abraham

Worst
1. Jared Odrick
2. Mark Anderson
3. Kyle Vanden Bosch
4. Willie Young
5. Derek Wolfe


3-4 DE

Best
1. JJ Watt (His grade is higher than #2, #3 and #4’s grades combined.)
2. Calais Campbell
3. Muhammad Wilkerson
4. Haloti Ngata
5. Justin Smith

Worst
1. Ziggy Hood
2. Vaughn Martin
3. Jerel Worthy
4. Brett Kiesel
5. Ricardo Mathews


DT/NT

Best
1. Geno Atkins
2. Gerald McCoy
3. Randy Starks
4. Kyle Williams (BUF)
5. Richard Seymour

Worst
1. Antonio Johnson
2. Tyson Alualu
3. Ma'ake Kemoeatu
4. Vince Wilfork
5. Sen’Derrick Marks


4-3 OLB

Best
1. Von Miller (His grade is higher than #2, #3 and #4’s grade combined)
2. Philip Wheeler
3. Jerod Mayo
4. Lance Briggs
5. Kevin Burnett

Worst
1t. Luke Kuechly
1t. Mychal Kendricks
3. Michael Boley
4. Manny Lawson
5. James Anderson


3-4 OLB

Best
1. Justin Houston
2. Clay Matthews
3. Anthony Spencer
4t. Ahmad Brooks
4t. Albert McClellan

Worst
1. Calvin Pace
2. Erik Walden
3. Connor Barwin
4. Jarrett Johnson
5. Paul Kruger


MLB/ILB

Best
1t. Patrick Willis
1t. DeMeco Ryans
3. NaVorro Bowman
4. Darryl Washington
5. Bobby Wagner

Worst
1. Rey Maualuga
2. Paris Lenon
3. Chase Blackburn
4. Brian Urlacher
5. London Fletcher


CB

Best
1. Antoine Winfield
2. Casey Hayward
3. Alterraun Verner
4. Charles Tillman
5. Devin McCourty

Worst
1. Janoris Jenkins
2. Corey Webster
3. Jimmy Smith
4. William Gay
5. Corey White


S

Best
1. Eric Weddle
2. TJ Ward
3. Jairus Byrd
4. Reshad Jones
5. Dashon Goldson

Worst
1. Malcolm Jenkins
2. Michael Griffin
3. Charles Godfrey
4. Eric Berry
5. Roman Harper

 

[clyde_carbon]

And no, Space, as much as you'd love it to be this thread isn't about Alex.

 

[threelittleturds]

I'm really surprised Bruce Miller isn't in the top 5 FBs. A running game this good tends to have a really good FB.

 

[Jikkle]

Pretty impressive that we don't have one guy in the worst category.

I'm a little surprised not to see Gore in the top 5 as so far this season it's the best I've seen him run in years.

And it's pretty funny to see all but one of the Cardinals O line make the bottom 5. It just blows my mind they signed Synder to be a starter and drafted Floyd to be a #2 WR when their offensive line was in complete shambles.

 

[numone9er]

Sickness isn't going to like Wilfork being graded so low. Good thing we didn't trade for him eh?

A lot of those are shockers for me. I'm really surprised about the Safeties. Malcolm Jenins is one of my favorite players

 

[threelittleturds]

He's their 7th ranked FB right now. He's .3 overall behind Erik Lorig for the 6th spot and .2 ahead of Greg Jones, John Kuhn, and Rhett Ellison. What hurts him in their rankings is that he is 1 of 5 FBs, out of 27 with a grade, who have a negative grade in the receiving category. He's 4th worst. He's tied for 2nd in the running category and 5th in blocking.

Why does he get a negative grade? He has 2 catches for 24 yards on 3 targets according to ESPN, that isn't so bad.

 

[ChrisPozz]

He's their 7th ranked FB right now. He's .3 overall behind Erik Lorig for the 6th spot and .2 ahead of Greg Jones, John Kuhn, and Rhett Ellison. What hurts him in their rankings is that he is 1 of 5 FBs, out of 27 with a grade, who have a negative grade in the receiving category. He's 4th worst. He's tied for 2nd in the running category and 5th in blocking.

To take this further. He's played in 200 snaps. He's ran the ball 3 times, ran a pass route 59 times, has blocked in the run game 124 times, and stayed in to block a rusher 14 times.

 

[ChrisPozz]

Why does he get a negative grade? He has 2 catches for 24 yards on 3 targets according to ESPN, that isn't so bad.

Impossible for me to say. Impossible for me or anyone else unfamiliar with their system to say why, especially just by looking at the basic statistics. Here's their grading method: http://www.profootballfocus.com/about/grading/

 

[Ray_Dogg]

I like how two of my least favorite players made the worst lists. Snyder and Lawson.

The Cardinals did this all to themselves. How many seasons have they neglected their oline? How does that front office stay employed? INSANE. I wonder where Colledge is rated.

 

[ChrisPozz]

Oops! I had the wrong filter on when I gave you his position ranking. Here is where he actually stands based on all the snaps (I only had some of the snaps filter on):

He's their 9th ranked FB right now (not 7th). He IS .3 overall behind Erik Lorig for the 6th spot and .2 ahead of Greg Jones, John Kuhn, and Rhett Ellison like I originally said. He IS still 1 of 5 FBs, out of 27 with a grade, who have a negative grade in the receiving category. He's 5th worst in that category (not 4th like I said). He is STILL tied for 2nd in the running category but is actually 7th in blocking (not 5th like I said).

 

[ChrisPozz]

I like how two of my least favorite players made the worst lists. Snyder and Lawson.

The Cardinals did this all to themselves. How many seasons have they neglected their oline? How does that front office stay employed? INSANE. I wonder where Colledge is rated.

He's tied for 30th out of 114 in their guard rankings. He has a positive overall grade, positive pass block grade, a -0.7 run block grade, and has been called for 2 penalties. They have him responsible for 1 sack (tied for 27th most), 2 QB hits (tied for 26th most), and 11 QB hurries (tied for 6th most).

 

[ChrisPozz]

He's tied for 30th out of 114 in their guard rankings. He has a positive overall grade, positive pass block grade, a -0.7 run block grade, and has been called for 2 penalties. They have him responsible for 1 sack (tied for 27th most), 2 QB hits (tied for 26th most), and 11 QB hurries (tied for 6th most).

This might be more helpful. Out of all the guards who have played in AT LEAST 75% of their team's snaps (46), this is where he ranks:

Tied for 24th overall grade (positive).
Tied for 24th in pass blocking grade (positive).
29th in run blocking grade (-0.7 grade).
Tied for 19th most in sacks (1 sack)
Tied for 19th most in QB hits (2 hits)
5th most in QB hurries (11 hits)

 

[Ray_Dogg]

Thank you Pozz. They have someone to build around. LOL.

 

[Yadahell]

"Worst
1. Janoris Jenkins"

Interesting on Jenkins- I know he gets picked on with Finnegan on the other side, but he didn't look bad in the Rams games I've watched this season.

 

[ChrisPozz]

"Worst
1. Janoris Jenkins"

Interesting on Jenkins- I know he gets picked on with Finnegan on the other side, but he didn't look bad in the Rams games I've watched this season.

It's an interesting subject because their snaps and targets are fairly equal so far. Finnegan has played in 9 more total defensive snaps but has dropped into coverage 6 fewer times.

Finnegan has been thrown at 57 times. Allowed 40 receptions for 358 yards (9.0 avg), 158 YAC, 0 TDs/3 INTs, 3 PDs, with a 64.8 QB rating in his coverage area.

Jenkins has been thrown at 61 times (4 more than Finnegan). Allowed 40 receptions (same as Finnegan) for 499 yards (12.5 avg), 167 YAC, 5 TDs/1 INT, 8 PDs, with a 111.3 QB rating in his coverage area.

Again, that doesn't tell a great story because I can't tell you how many times each man has covered each particular receiver in every game, but for whatever reason they have been targeted about the same number of times in about the same number of coverage chances. My guess in that defense is that Finnegan has been asked to cover the number 1 WR more often, but I can't say that for sure without doing more work. I'm not sure if I could accurately find that either.

 

[tallglassofwater007]

Interesting "Worst" ILB as well. And Eric Berry... I haven't seen him play much but I know last year pre injury he was playing alright. Think the injury is playing a part in that?

 

[Yadahell]

It's an interesting subject because their snaps and targets are fairly equal so far. Finnegan has played in 9 more total defensive snaps but has dropped into coverage 6 fewer times.

Finnegan has been thrown at 57 times. Allowed 40 receptions for 358 yards (9.0 avg), 158 YAC, 0 TDs/3 INTs, 3 PDs, with a 64.8 QB rating in his coverage area.

Jenkins has been thrown at 61 times (4 more than Finnegan). Allowed 40 receptions (same as Finnegan) for 499 yards (12.5 avg), 167 YAC, 5 TDs/1 INT, 8 PDs, with a 111.3 QB rating in his coverage area.

Again, that doesn't tell a great story because I can't tell you how many times each man has covered each particular receiver in every game, but for whatever reason they have been targeted about the same number of times in about the same number of coverage chances. My guess in that defense is that Finnegan has been asked to cover the number 1 WR more often, but I can't say that for sure without doing more work. I'm not sure if I could accurately find that either.

Interesting Pozz- thanks. I know he got lit up in the Green Bay game (I believe that was where he gave up 3 of the 5 TD's he's surrendered this year), so that would skew the numbers a bit.

 

[CalamityX11]

No Gore for top 5????????

lunacy!

 

[ChrisPozz]

No Gore for top 5????????

lunacy!

10th overall and 6th in the running category. The most interesting thing I thought I saw so far this year in Gore, and ended up later confirming it through everybody's numbers, is Gore is making guys miss better this year than he has the last two years. Not necessarily by running through guys but his footwork has been outstanding this year. In that regard he looks like he did at Miami.