Peyton Manning's 5 MVP awards put him in company with all-time greats

[HammerDown]

The greatest to every play the game of football.

 

[Irish7478]

It's interesting. He never won a championship in the same year he won an MVP award. Something he has in common with Barry Bonds.

 

[Johnnydollaz89]

3rd best behind Brady and Montana

 

[GNG]

3rd best behind Brady and Montana

2nd best behind Brett Favre.

 

[NEPatsfan]

1st ballot hall of fame sexual predator, and steroid user.

Ahh crap, Brett Favrraaa has that spot.

 

[HammerDown]

3rd best behind Brady and Montana

Based on what?

 

[NEPatsfan]

Facts.

 

[Johnnydollaz89]

Based on what?

My opinion.

 

[Wamu]

Facts.

Spygate, the Tuck Rule & Deflategate?

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Tom Brady is the best ever if we continue to ignore all the times he shits the bed in the postseason...Like his last 2 times in Denver, or both Super Bowls vs the Giants, or about 5 times vs Baltimore, or against the Rex Ryan Jets, or against the Chargers or in his first SB "Win"...

Ya know, the football watching world loves to focus on Peyton poor postseason games, but we act like Toms' never happen....

if not for Pete Carroll being the biggest idiot in the history of football, Tom would be going on well over a decade without a ring

 

[HammerDown]

My opinion.

I get it.

But let's be honest: any reason anyone says for why n is the best ever, the evidence shows Peyton Manning was better.

Imagine if the guy had been surrounded by talent like Jerry Rice, Rob Gronkowski, Randy Moss, {insert name of half a dozen of the best slot receivers ever}, etc.?

Can you even imagine?!

 

[HammerDown]

Tom Brady is the best ever if we continue to ignore all the times he shits the bed in the postseason...Like his last 2 times in Denver, or both Super Bowls vs the Giants, or about 5 times vs Baltimore, or against the Rex Ryan Jets, or against the Chargers or in his first SB "Win"...

Ya know, the football watching world loves to focus on Peyton poor postseason games, but we act like Toms' never happen....

if not for Pete Carroll being the biggest idiot in the history of football, Tom would be going on well over a decade without a ring

One minute Brady was preparing to retire in disgrace.

The next they were chanting "MVP!"

What was that @Rock Strongo said to you moments before "the play"?

"I'm sick of this guy costing us Super Bowls?"

I don't blame him! Cheated like a motherfucker yet still had shit to show for it.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

One minute Brady was preparing to retire in disgrace.

The next they were chanting "MVP!"

What was that @Rock Strongo said to you moments before "the play"?

"I'm sick of this guy costing us Super Bowls?"

I don't blame him! Cheated like a motherfucker yet still had shit to show for it.

Exactly right, thats the text I got from Rock the second after his second INT to Bobby Wagner, that should have been the INT that sealed the game

He deserves credit for playing a great 4th quarter, but if Carroll makes the call we all know he should have, everyone would have been discussing Tom's 2 backbreaking INT's and him choking in a big game for about the 11th year in a row

Malcolm Butlers' greatness turned Tom into the 'MVP"

 

[NEPatsfan]

Spygate, the Tuck Rule & Deflategate?

Spygate - Patriots punished for having camerman in incorrect location. Still allowed to film the opposing sidelines to this day, but now do it from approved location. Come to Gillette and I'll show you where it's done from. Take a gander at this article. Excellent breakdown of what happened.
The Truth About Spygate: Punishing Success and Promoting Parity

Tuck Rule - Rule that was properly applied and remained in effect for many seasons afterwards. What does it have to do with the Patriots? It was called by the officials. (Kind of a dumb rule, but it was the rule that all 32 teams signed onto before the start of the season.)

Deflategate - Tom Brady is accused of being "generally aware" of something someone else may or may not have done.

Anything else?

 

[Tin Man]

Which of the cited athletes does not belong?
Juicer, Barry Bonds. The man is tainted by PEDs. All of his career stats & awards are suspect.

 

[HammerDown]

Interesting lack of Brady fans in here. This thread is like kryptonite to them. They hate it.

 

[night]

Interesting lack of Brady fans in here. This thread is like kryptonite to them. They hate it.

Brady has 2 MVPs which is still pretty good.

 

[HammerDown]

Brady has 2 MVPs which is still pretty good.

Oh, trust me, they don't want to talk numbers.

The numbers prove that Brady is nowhere near the true greats.

 

[jarntt]

I think a lot of people forget just how great Manning was in his prime. He absolutely carried some of those shitty Colts teams.

 

[Carnzo]

Interesting lack of Brady fans in here. This thread is like kryptonite to them. They hate it.

Yawn, no need to comment. TB is by far worse than the devil himself.
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