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If he could draw a foul by sticking his ass into a defender's crotch, ala Jordan, he'd have a couple more championships

So now cotton wants more man ass on man crotch. Knew that dude was a ghey.
 

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If he could draw a foul by sticking his ass into a defender's crotch, ala Jordan, he'd have a couple more championships

jordan wasnt doing that to draw a foul

he just liked the way it felt
 

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wade is far more efficient. - No.
plays better D - No.
scores on par - Now you are being ridiculous.
and head to head wins at a better clip. - maybe over the last two years, but definitely not over the years in which their careers have overlapped.


wade is a 11-8 verses kobe

lets not forget kobe and the lakers have beaten the heat with lebron on the team. they only play the heat 2 times a year. so lets not try and make it a lebron thing. and yes wade plays better d and is more efficient a scorer than kobe will ever be. kobe has NEVER shot over 47 or 48 percent in a season never..
 

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Kobe ... as much as I am a huge fan

was blessed with far better teams than Jordan or LBJ ever had (including this "big 3" thing in miami)
 

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It was the "and never will accomplish" that I really took issue with. he's a lock for a couple more titles...and a couple more mVP's...and we'll be forced to put him right next to Jordan...we won't like it...but we'll have no choice...

Totally. And let's look at him as a player. The guy can literally guard or play all 5 positions on the floor. He literally makes the best offensive player on the other side a complete non factor he is an unstoppable force when he decides to go to the hoop. He just may be unlike anything we've ever seen when we are discussing this in 10 years
 

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wade is a 11-8 verses kobe

lets not forget kobe and the lakers have beaten the heat with lebron on the team. they only play the heat 2 times a year. so lets not try and make it a lebron thing. and yes wade plays better d and is more efficient a scorer than kobe will ever be. kobe has NEVER shot over 47 or 48 percent in a season never..

so you picked OVER 47% because he has been at 46.9, 46.8%, 46.7% and 46.5%

forgot they dont round numbers in canada
 

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ohhhh reaaaaallllly shaq was the better player than wade?? lmao.. :lame::laugh3:

2003-2004 - wihtout Shaq: 42-40

2004-2005: year 1 with shaq 59-23

2005-2006: year they won the title 52-30 42-17 with Shaq... 10-13 wihtout.
 

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Kobe ... as much as I am a huge fan

was blessed with far better teams than Jordan or LBJ ever had (including this "big 3" thing in miami)

and jordan was blessed with less competition during his title runs
 

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Totally. And let's look at him as a player. The guy can literally guard or play all 5 positions on the floor. He literally makes the best offensive player on the other side a complete non factor he is an unstoppable force when he decides to go to the hoop. He just may be unlike anything we've ever seen when we are discussing this in 10 years

Biggest thing that bothers me about LeBron.

For Jordan, good D and doing what he does best was never a decision.

LeBron had to be harassed by the media and fans just to become the 4th quarter guy he was last year.

I don't think Jordan or Kobe have EVER skipped so many 4th quarters in one series if any.
 

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No
No
Not really
Thanks to Lebron

Lets not confuse the fact that Wade is able to get better shots (since the D's are focused on teh best player in the NBA) with Wade being more efficient

Wade isn't more efficient just because he can hit a wide open J better than Kobe can hit a triple teamed fadeaway

Kobe is able to do more than Wade given what they respectively have to work with

That's why one will go down as 1 of the 10 best players in NBA history. And the other is Dwayne Wade

lmao.. kobe didn't win a chip and he had gary payton malone shaq on one team and lost in the finals. then he turns around and has howard gasol ron artest steve nash and before he got hurt barely made the playofss.

please give me a break with all this.
 

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Totally. And let's look at him as a player. The guy can literally guard or play all 5 positions on the floor. He literally makes the best offensive player on the other side a complete non factor he is an unstoppable force when he decides to go to the hoop. He just may be unlike anything we've ever seen when we are discussing this in 10 years

There are literally zero GM's that would take Kobe over Lebron...both in their primes...if given the choice...I honestly believe that..one is an excellent scorer...the other is arguably the best player in any phase of the game you wish to discuss...
 

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always a ref excuse. please just stop

Heat fans who don't think the refs deserved a ring for the 2006 title are right in line with Steelers fans who think the same about the Super Bowl win over the Seahawks...
 

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lmao.. kobe didn't win a chip and he had gary payton malone shaq on one team and lost in the finals. then he turns around and has howard gasol ron artest steve nash and before he got hurt barely made the playofss.

please give me a break with all this.

Because those guys were effective..

Not to mention Kobe had to deal with a dumbass coach that says in the last week of the season.

"oh I can play Gasol and Howard at the same time??"
 
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