PAC 12 Thread v6.0

[socaljim242]

Yes USC was awesome pre PAC 12 era

And yet USC finished the highest ranked PAC team in the past five seasons. Your great run is equal to USCs down years. Congrats.

 

[socaljim242]

Game time rankings are bogus. Obviously the teams have not played or proved their ranking. Sportswriters are often wrong when they don’t have sample data.

So it' a "big game" that day when you played an unranked team because at the end of the season they worked their way to getting ranked. lol. Yeah no. It's a big game that day depending on where both teams are that Saturday.
Hey remember that second game of the season no one talked about. Turned out to be a big game we went to. LOL

Alabama played an unranked USC that day. They didn't play the 3rd ranked team in the country.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

So it' a "big game" that day when you played an unranked team because at the end of the season they worked their way to getting ranked. lol. Yeah no. It's a big game that day depending on where both teams are that Saturday.
Hey remember that second game of the season no one talked about. Turned out to be a big game we went to. LOL

Hey remember that time we beat a team we thought would be great this year? Turns out they ended up with only 6 wins. Guess they weren't as good as we thought.

 

[socaljim242]

Hey remember that time we beat a team we thought would be great this year? Turns out they ended up with only 6 wins. Guess they weren't as good as we thought.

Teams get better teams get worse. You can't go back and claim a game is bigger than it was that day it was played. You win a game against #5 at the time it's correctly said to be played against the "then #5 team in the country".

 

[TheLonestarDUCK]

And yet USC finished the highest ranked PAC team in the past five seasons. Your great run is equal to USCs down years. Congrats.

Think winning a playoff game and finishing #2 trumps your 1 good season in 15 years.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Teams get better teams get worse. You can't go back and claim a game is bigger than it was that day it was played. You win a game against #5 at the time it's correctly said to be played against the "then #5 team in the country".

Except they weren't the 5th best team in the country. They were thought to be with little to no evidence. Once the evidence came in, it was clear that they were not.

 

[socaljim242]

Except they weren't the 5th best team in the country. They were thought to be with little to no evidence. Once the evidence came in, it was clear that they were not.

The evidence could come in early in the season or late. That USC team is a good example. I was at the first game at Arlington against Alabama. No resemblance to the team that beat Penn State in the Rose Bowl.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

The evidence could come in early in the season or late. That USC team is a good example. I was at the first game at Arlington against Alabama. No resemblance to the team that beat Penn State in the Rose Bowl.

Whether the evidence comes in early or late...you don't have a complete picture of how good a team was until the end of the season.

 

[socaljim242]

Think winning a playoff game and finishing #2 trumps your 1 good season in 15 years.

LOL. One good season in the last 15 years?

11-3
10-3
10-4
10-2
12-1
11-2
11-2
11-2
12-1

Yeah those seasons were really bad. LOL

 

[socaljim242]

Whether the evidence comes in early or late...you don't have a complete picture of how good a team was until the end of the season.

You have a complete picture of how they good they were when they finished. Some get better others get worse. Teams lose valuable players they dont have at the end or players step up and get better during the season.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

You have a complete picture of how they good they were when they finished. Some get better others get worse. Teams lose valuable players they dont have at the end or players step up and get better during the season.

Final rankings are based on the entirety of the season, not just the final game.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Consider this:

Why do Z E R O of the SOS calculations take into account gameday rankings?

 

[socaljim242]

Final rankings are based on the entirety of the season, not just the final game.

Notre dame went into championship game #2 one year and lost. Dropped down to #4 after . In 2016 USC was #9 going into the bowls so last game of the season. Won the Rose Bowl and finished #3. If they would have lost they would have finished around #14

 

[socaljim242]

Consider this:

Why do Z E R O of the SOS calculations take into account gameday rankings?

Clemson had a crappy SOS last season. They were still a good team no?

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Clemson had a crappy SOS last season. They were still a good team no?

You are conflating the two. SOS has nothing to do with a team's strength. It DOES take into account how good the teams you played were.

So why does SOS not use gameday rankings?

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[socaljim242]

You are conflating the two. SOS has nothing to do with a team's strength. It DOES take into account how good the teams you played were.

So why does SOS not use gameday rankings?

lol. When there's a big college gameday on TV, the marquis game of the day and #3 is playing #8. Do they say #3 is playing #8 or do they tell you their SOS? They say #3 is playing #8 they never say anything about their current SOS. You have your projected SOS at the beginning and the final SOS thats figured out once the season ends. The first no one gives a shit about once the season starts. The second no one cares about till the seasons over.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

 

[Olyduck]

I thought Lake was the DC. If they split it who did what? I feel like he may well be good but maybe he should be DC alone before declaring him the best

 

[AlaskaGuy]

I thought Lake was the DC. If they split it who did what? I feel like he may well be good but maybe he should be DC alone before declaring him the best

He was the lone DC up until 2017 when Lake got promoted to co DC in order to keep him at Washington.