Overrated Conferences

[dtgold88]

Would add, @Gator, not sure what you mean by my looking at it with rose colored glasses. I'm not a conference fan.

 

[Picklerick 2.0]

It's been said that the SEC is always the best conference in football yet Texas is in the championship game in it's first year.

The Big 10 is probably always considered the second best conference in football yet Oregon is in the championship game in it's first year.

The Big 12 is probably the next best conference in football yet Arizona State is in the championship in it's first year.

The ACC is probably the next best conference in football yet SMU is in the championship in it's first year.

The PAC 12 was considered a weak conference and yet two of it's former members are in championships.

What say you?

ACC is garbage. Smu has beaten nobody and yet is ranked 8th in the nation? Clemson is garbage this year as well. Why these two are so overrated is beyond me.

 

[Gator]

ACC is garbage. Smu has beaten nobody and yet is ranked 8th in the nation? Clemson is garbage this year as well. Why these two are so overrated is beyond me.

Indiana is 9th and has beaten NO ONE. SMU's SOS (60 out of 68) is higher than Indiana's( 61 out of 68). It's OK with me if BOTH are tossed out of CFP.

 

[raoul]

ACC is garbage. Smu has beaten nobody and yet is ranked 8th in the nation? Clemson is garbage this year as well. Why these two are so overrated is beyond me.

SMU and Clemson lost at home...Miami did not. If you lose at home to a team not ranked ahead of you...you shouldn't be in the playoff. Personally I'd rather see Miami and AZ State in over OSU.

 

[Used 2 B Hu]

How long will Texas continue to schedule "incredibly tough OOC opponents" faced with an SEC schedule?

That'll end after next season

 

[raoul]

SMU and Clemson lost at home...Miami did not. If you lose at home to a team not ranked ahead of you...you shouldn't be in the playoff. Personally I'd rather see Miami and AZ State in over OSU.

Duh...AZ State is automatic.

 

[Gator]

SMU and Clemson lost at home...Miami did not. If you lose at home to a team not ranked ahead of you...you shouldn't be in the playoff. Personally I'd rather see Miami and AZ State in over OSU.

Excuse me? People is glass houses....Notre Dame vs Northern Illinois (7-5) L 14 16

 

[Gator]

That has always been the case when a historically strong team has a bad year. An opponent schedules them 5 to 8 years in advance and then is accused of have an easy schedule when the historically is down.

Re-read what you have written! So your team schedules ONE historically strong team every 5 to 8 years? Why not every year?

From 1990 through 2024 (THAT'S 35 YEARS) Wisconsin has played 120 OOC games. Of those 120 games, 4 were against top 5 teams, 7 were against top 10 teams, and 14 were against top 25 teams (final polls). If Wisconsin had scheduled ONE "historically strong team" every year and one of them fell every 5 to 8 years then Wisconsin would have played ranked OOC teams either 4 out of 5 seasons or 7 out of 8 years. That would mean that over 35 years Wisconsin would have played 4/5x35 = 28 ranked teams or 7/8*35= 30.6 or 31 ranked teams.

Including this year (1990-2024, 35 years) Florida has played 121 OOC games. Of those 121 opponents 15 were ranked in the top 5, 20 were ranked in the top 10, and 32 were against top 25 teams. There are 6 teams that have played more top 25 teams OOC than Florida!

 

[raoul]

Excuse me? People is glass houses....Notre Dame vs Northern Illinois (7-5) L 14 16

We're higher than we should be.

 

[Ron G]

Excuse me? People is glass houses....Notre Dame vs Northern Illinois (7-5) L 14 16

Right, one loss is worse than 3 or more losses. And ND would have been out if they lost another game.

 

[Ron G]

Re-read what you have written! So your team schedules ONE historically strong team every 5 to 8 years? Why not every year?

From 1990 through 2024 (THAT'S 35 YEARS) Wisconsin has played 120 OOC games. Of those 120 games, 4 were against top 5 teams, 7 were against top 10 teams, and 14 were against top 25 teams (final polls). If Wisconsin had scheduled ONE "historically strong team" every year and one of them fell every 5 to 8 years then Wisconsin would have played ranked OOC teams either 4 out of 5 seasons or 7 out of 8 years. That would mean that over 35 years Wisconsin would have played 4/5x35 = 28 ranked teams or 7/8*35= 30.6 or 31 ranked teams.

Including this year (1990-2024, 35 years) Florida has played 121 OOC games. Of those 121 opponents 15 were ranked in the top 5, 20 were ranked in the top 10, and 32 were against top 25 teams. There are 6 teams that have played more top 25 teams OOC than Florida!

Over the years ND played Michigan and Michigan State and another Big 10 every year. They played Florida State and Miami often. Prior to the last 5 years Stanford was never considered a pushover and of course Southern Cal every year. On top of that, all these were home and away contracts. There were some Texas, Oklahoma and (prior to the current agreement) ACC home and homes. There was usually a MAC team and of course Navy.
Until last year (2023) there was never a Division 1AA or FCS team (you know like: Citadel, Georgia Southern, Mercer, Charleston, and others that dot the schedule of just about every SEC team)

 

[WABLTY]

I'm a little irritated ASU didn't get the 3 seed just so we could piss off the pearl clutchers one more time by rushing the field in a sold out Fiesta Bowl if we can beat Texas (or Clemson but probably Texas).

Instead Georgia's playing in New Orleans, ASU's playing in Atlanta, Boise's playing in Phoenix and Oregon's playing in LA. Oregon in LA makes sense, but hey. Two bye teams that'll sell your games out? Probably get 3 big audiences? Nah, fuck that.

Make everyone travel 1,000 miles and bitch when the seats are empty.

As for whether or not ASU deserved the bye and if conferences are overrated, I don't care. ASU went 11-1 with its starting QB off the worst stretch in its history, the NCAA all over it and fielding a bunch of cast offs with a plucky young coach that's probably in over his head. It's literally a disney story.

 

[Fitbud]

ACC is garbage. Smu has beaten nobody and yet is ranked 8th in the nation? Clemson is garbage this year as well. Why these two are so overrated is beyond me.

The ACC is one of the big 4 conferences and each of the four conferences got their champions and runners up into the playoff.

 

[Picklerick 2.0]

The ACC is one of the big 4 conferences and each of the four conferences got their champions and runners up into the playoff.

Changes nothing about my statement.

 

[dtgold88]

Changes nothing about my statement.

OK....but your statement is just an opinion.

 

[Picklerick 2.0]

OK....but your statement is just an opinion.

No shit? Who has smu beaten btw? They played two ranked teams all year. Lost both.

 

[dtgold88]

No shit? Who has smu beaten btw? They played two ranked teams all year. Lost both.

Cool....And Texas best win is against, whom, 4 loss TAM

To answer your Q I'd say Louisville.

 

[hatcher3333]

TEXAS scheduled defending National champs and two time playoff selection Michigan on the road.
That was the team Texas chose to schedule voluntarily. Not some Las Vegas neutral site kickoff.....at the Big house....
When you schedule Michigan or any other blue blood elite program OOC on the road, you don't need to add more teams to your OOC.

But, Texas always schedules incredibly tough OOC opponents. They get the truly elite blue bloods.
Next year, they literally have to go play another true road game at Ohio State.

Who else does that? Schedules Alabama ('23), Michigan ('24), and Ohio State('25) in 3 consecutive years ALL TRUE ROAD GAMES????
And how come everyone else struggles with these "so called easy teams" that Texas played??

in fairness, these big OOC games are scheduled years prior. Texas didn't know Michigan would win a title.

 

[Gator]

Right, one loss is worse than 3 or more losses. And ND would have been out if they lost another game.

I'm not sure what you are driving at here.

I was responding to Raoul's comment specifically...

...If you lose at home to a team not ranked ahead of you...you shouldn't be in the playoff...

ND DID lose at home to a team ranked lower than ND and in fact lost to a G5 7-5 team. So shouldn't he be pushing for ND to be removed from the CFP?

 

[raoul]

I'm not sure what you are driving at here.

I was responding to Raoul's comment specifically...


ND DID lose at home to a team ranked lower than ND and in fact lost to a G5 7-5 team. So shouldn't he be pushing for ND to be removed from the CFP?

Maybe I temporarily forgot the fact that there are twelve teams this year.