Oregon deciding between Kevin Sumlin and Lane Kiffin. Frost says no thanks.

[NU_FTW]

The only thing I even said similar to that was that AS OF 1990, you were not yet an elite program on the level of Oklahoma, USC, Notre Dame or Alabama.

You're really twisting my words

How many top 10 finishes did USC have in the same time frame? You are mistaken to think that USC was "elite" yet nebraska was not... Just not a logical argument there. BTW nobody counts national titles prior to ww2

 

[Red_Alert]

If the jr bluedevil would like to break it down to less than 50 years.
here are the 30 and 20 year top winning percentages

 

[Red_Alert]

 

[tducey]

I'd go with Sumlin if I was Oregon.

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

I'm 38 actually. You guys are talking about all time wins. That's a good category for you guys, but two of the programs above you on that list are Michigan and Texas. They weren't on my list of blue bloods either if you noticed.

Absent the 90s, that's the level of program Nebraska is. Like Michigan or Texas. That's not bad, but it's not on the level of the other programs I was talking about.

1 Loss for Nebraska in 1982, and 1983 Nebraska also had only 1 loss. 1982 loss to National Champs Penn State, 1983 loss to National Champs Miami. Both losses were away games.

Your looking dumber with each post sonny Jim.

 

[douggie]

Sumlin or Kiffin?

 

[Red_Alert]

I'll let jr bluedevil post the winningest team of the last 40 years.

She won't like what she finds. LOL

 

[corn train]

Let me get out in front of this

 

[Ottermatic]

i'm finding it very amusing that...

in trying to support their argument that "as of 1990, Nebraska was already an elite blue blood program"...

Nebraska fans keep citing evidence which has mostly happened since 1990.

I wonder if they teach elementary logic or argumentation in that state.

Anyway, I'm done with this until after the conclusion of the P12 Championship game

 

[Cowboyinexile]

Remember that top dollar at Oregon is about half what he’s signing for at NU.

I don't doubt that he is Lincoln bound but I don't know if you want to match booster dollars with uncle Phil

 

[Red_Alert]

i'm finding it very amusing that...

in trying to support their argument that "as of 1990, Nebraska was already an elite blue blood program"...

Nebraska fans keep citing evidence which has mostly happened since 1990.

I wonder if they teach elementary logic or argumentation in that state.

Anyway, I'm done with this until after the conclusion of the P12 Championship game

Hey jr bluedevil,

1990 was only 27 years ago. I went back another 23 years further to 1967.

Go back another 5 years to 1962, come back here and report your findings.
Top 5 Winningest programs
Top 5 winning percentage programs.

 

[TheReal_NU]

I don't doubt that he is Lincoln bound but I don't know if you want to match booster dollars with uncle Phil

Warren Buffett says hi.

Actually, he doesn’t give money to NU, but he still says hi.

 

[Ottermatic]

Hey jr bluedevil,

1990 was only 27 years ago. I went back another 23 years further to 1967.

Go back another 5 years to 1962, come back here and report your findings.
Top 5 Winningest programs
Top 5 winning percentage programs.

Mind telling me he website where you're pulling the aggregate records from? I know you're not compiling them yourself

 

[Cowboyinexile]

Warren Buffett says hi.

Actually, he doesn’t give money to NU, but he still says hi.

Touche

 

[Red_Alert]

Mind telling me he website where you're pulling the aggregate records from? I know you're not compiling them yourself

I gave you a link to the 50 year, jr.

Google...."winningest college football programs of the last 50 years".
Then do 55 years, then do 40 years. I ain't your momma. Go upstairs and ask her to help you.

 

[Ottermatic]

Okay - i've done a bit of research

first of all, the challenges that @Red_Alert is giving me are irrelevant because they are looking at the current state of the programs, where as I am comparing the programs as of 1990. Even with his longest timeframe suggested (55 years), at least half of that is after 1990.

I do not dispute that Nebraska is an elite program today, so those records are irrelevant.

Here is what is relevant: These are the numbers as of the beginning of the season in 1990, which is when I was comparing the teams

All time record:
USC: 608-234-50 (72.2%)
Nebraska: 609-254-39 (70.6%)

National Championships:
USC: 9
Nebraska: 2

Coaches who won a National Championship at that School:
USC: 3
Nebraska: 1

Heisman Trophy Winners:
USC: 4
Nebraska: 2

Bowl Game Record:
USC: 22-10 (68.8%)
Nebraska: 14-13 (51.9%)

Any other categories you'd like me to check out?

 

[NU_FTW]

Okay - i've done a bit of research

first of all, the challenges that @Red_Alert is giving me are irrelevant because they are looking at the current state of the programs, where as I am comparing the programs as of 1990. Even with his longest timeframe suggested (55 years), at least half of that is after 1990.

I do not dispute that Nebraska is an elite program today, so those records are irrelevant.

Here is what is relevant: These are the numbers as of the beginning of the season in 1990, which is when I was comparing the teams

All time record:
USC: 608-234-50 (72.2%)
Nebraska: 609-254-39 (70.6%)

National Championships:
USC: 9
Nebraska: 2

Coaches who won a National Championship at that School:
USC: 3
Nebraska: 1

Heisman Trophy Winners:
USC: 4
Nebraska: 2

Bowl Game Record:
USC: 22-10 (68.8%)
Nebraska: 14-13 (51.9%)

Any other categories you'd like me to check out?

If you are going to claim BS National Championships then you need to count our Unclaimed Nattys. SMH stupid kids.

Other How about you limit it to 1960 to 1990 since you are so concerned with it. The Natty was given out prior to bowl games and off bogus criteria prior anyway. Lets see all time wins, Winning percentage, bowl games and nattys in that time period there chump. You know, when football actually was relevant and not something over telegraph

AP didnt start voting until after bowl season until 1965 This is the start of real championships. Even still prior to AP polls nothing really mattered prior anyway and that was only 15 years prior to this point.

Keep counting those worthless titles

 

[Ottermatic]

If you are going to claim BS National Championships then you need to count our Unclaimed Nattys. SMH stupid kids.

Other How about you limit it to 1960 to 1990 since you are so concerned with it. The Natty was given out prior to bowl games and off bogus criteria prior anyway. Lets see all time wins, Winning percentage, bowl games and nattys in that time period there chump. You know, when football actually was relevant and not something over telegraph

This isn't the NFL where you can disregard earlier eras by claiming "Only the Super Bowl Era counts" - College football was huge in those days - bigger than the NFL in fact - and both USC and Nebraska were competing. No reason to discount them.

What you're trying to do is limit the time frame to a time frame that would be good for Nebraska. But you can't cherry pick like that. I am already giving you the 1980s, when Nebraska was definitely better than USC. But I'm not going to arbitrarily allow a time when USC was at the top of their game and Nebraska wasn't to be excluded.

For national championships, I only used the ones the school actually claims. Both teams have large numbers of unclaimed national championships that would increase the number for each school. But if the school itself doesn't want to claim it, I certainly won't. I'll let you look up those yourself if you care to.

EDIT - okay, i did look it up - if you want to include unclaimed national titles (i don't see why you would, but just for the sake of argument) the numbers jump to USC 15, Nebraska 9

BTW, USC does not claim any national championships for any year in which they lost their bowl game.

 

[NU_FTW]

This isn't the NFL where you can disregard earlier eras by claiming "Only the Super Bowl Era counts" - College football was huge in those days - bigger than the NFL in fact - and both USC and Nebraska were competing. No reason to discount them.

What you're trying to do is limit the time frame to a time frame that would be good for Nebraska. But you can't cherry pick like that. I am already giving you the 1980s, when Nebraska was definitely better than USC. But I'm not going to arbitrarily allow a time when USC was at the top of their game and Nebraska wasn't to be excluded.

For national championships, I only used the ones the school actually claims. Both teams have large numbers of unclaimed national championships that would increase the number for each school. But if the school itself doesn't want to claim it, I certainly won't. I'll let you look up those yourself if you care to.

EDIT - okay, i did look it up - if you want to include unclaimed national titles (i don't see why you would, but just for the sake of argument) the numbers jump to USC 15, Nebraska 9

BTW, USC does not claim any national championships for any year in which they lost their bowl game.

No it is widely accepted that when NC's were given out prior to bowl games it was bogus. Make a poll if you dont believe me. Keep that head up your rear.

How many 30 year runs of 9+ wins has USC had?
How many 10 year runs of 9+ wins has USC had?
How many years of top 10 finishes has USC had?
What is the win % from 1965 to current or 2001 whichever you prefer.
What is the total wins from 1965 to current or 2001 whichever you prefer.

Talk out your butt all you want You decide to add unclaimed to justify your previous titles that would put you BELOW nebraska because guess what USC is a lesser program. If it wasnt for being in Southern California USC would be absolutely nothing.

Your initial claim is that the 90's was Nebraskas only period of dominance. I have proven and shown that not only were we dominant for more years than the 90's but in better fashion than MANY teams in the entire country INCLUDING USC.

Show me how many teams have 32 year runs of 9+ wins every single year
show me how many have top 10 finishes and how many in those 32 years!

You tried to claim nebraska isnt/wasnt a traditional power, or national power, or elite prior to the 90's. Is it our fault for playing in a better conference where we had actual competition at the time?

Keep grasping at straws. Soon enough you will see.

 

[The Crimson King]

No it is widely accepted that when NC's were given out prior to bowl games it was bogus. Make a poll if you dont believe me.

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Not bogus would win because of the Bama fans