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Skins Stats: Ten Reasons Why the Redskins Have One of the Best Offensive Lines in the NFL

here is the case for the redskins o/line being a top 5 o/line here are some points

Per Mockdraftable, Long ranks at or above the 89th percentile in height, weight and hand size at the center position. He also has above average arm length for a pivot man. NFL Draft Scout reports that Long ran a 5.16 40-yard dash at some point, which would place him in the 71st percentile among centers. Also, Tracking Football.com lists Long as an above average athlete (90th percentile in the shot put and 62nd percentile overall among centers).

The line's above average athleticism score is powered by its two best players: Trent Williams and Brandon Scherff.

Williams RAS score of 9.46 is the ninth best among the 64 starting tackles in the league. It's the 32nd highest score by a tackle on record. It puts Williams at 18th among all 160 starting offensive linemen in the NFL.

Scherff's numbers are even more impressive. His RAS of 9.74 ranks fourth among all active starting guards and fifth among all starting interior lineman. It is the 15th best score by a guard on record. Scherff's RAS ranks tenth among all current starting linemen

spencer long is in the top 89th % for height , weight and hand size for the position , his 40 yd dash is in the top 71st % and is 62% overall among centers . this guy has a lot of tools and a great coach to get things out of him

The huge size of the Burgundy and Gold's O-line is a perfect match for their running game, which emphasizes power and primarily uses a gap-blocking scheme. Per PFF, the Redskins ranked third in yards before contact average on gap-scheme runs last season.

In other words, the shoe fits and the Redskins wear it well. Perhaps, the Hogs 2.0 moniker that this unit has been given is well deserved.

the above paragraph totally destroys deans' talking points about the run blocking from our o/line . of course he said this falsehood to discredit the fact that spencer long plays on atop 5 o/line . but wait people the eyeball test wins out in dean's mythological world

now dean , so you can keep up if we are 3rd in yards before contact that means our o/line , way more often then not , is blocking at top 3 level while our RBS arent hitting the holes correctly


Everything you've read up till now has been in reference to why the Redskins have a great offensive line; but has this group actually produced like an elite unit to back that sentiment up?

This can be a tricky question to answer for O-lines, because many statistics that one might think to use to figure this out are highly intertwined with the play of skill position players. There are, however, a handful of metrics that do a better job than most when it comes to isolating the play of offensive lines.

I chose to use the following more offensive line-oriented measures to compare the 2016 Redskins' line to the other 31 units in the league: PFF's yards before contact per attempt, Player Profiler's analytically driven passing and rushing offensive line rating and Football Outsiders' pressure rate, adjusted line yards and adjusted sack rate.

2016 Redskins Offensive Line Passing Metrics & Rankings

ADJ Sack Rate PP Pass O-Line Pressure Rate
Value 3.9% 100.0 24.2%
Ranking 3rd 5th 11th




2016 Redskins Offensive Line Rushing Metrics & Rankings

ADJ Line Yards PP Rush O-Line Yds Before Cont/C
Value 4.25 132.4 1.72
Ranking 6th 4th 13th
Only six teams outranked the Skins in three or more of those metrics: Saints, Steelers, Titans, Cowboys, Raiders and Giants. Washington's average ranking across these categories (7.0) was only topped by the Saints (3.7) and Steelers (5.0) and only matched by the Titans (7.0).

Some lines are great at pass blocking and below average at run blocking (Oakland Raiders), some really only excel in the running game (Dallas Cowboys); very few lines rank among the best in both regards the way the Redskins did last season.

again this totally debunks dean's claims we are not a top 5 o/line


It's a different story for Spencer Long though. In his first year ever playing center at any level, Long finished 23rd in overall PFF grading and seventh in pass blocking at the position. And unlike Lauvao, Long is not small and old. He is still only 26 and is tied as the eighth tallest and the heaviest starting center in the NFL.


Long is due to hit the open market next year, but it shouldn't be too difficult for the Redskins to retain him, because contracts for centers simply aren't very expensive unless you're dealing with one of the elite players at the position.

The following proposed contract would only put the team on the hook for $9M, which would allow them to move on from Long after a season or two. It would also make Spencer Long one of the highest paid centers in the league, with a contract that would only rank behind the deals given to Travis Frederick, Alex Mack, Rodney Hudson, Eric Wood, Max Unger, Ryan Kalil and the Pouncey brothers.

the 2nd paragraph again totally debunks dean's position that long needs to have an elite contract (i.e. better then moses' ) to justify his being picked , "centers are simply not expensive unless you are dealing with elite centers . NO ONE has ever claimed Long is an elite center . most would see him as an avg center at this point in his career with potential to be better

below are the sources for the stats and anyone can look them over but as we have seen , claims made by dean are simply not based on facts when it comes to long and our o/line . notice i havent even begun to dig into him about scherf







*All statistics are courtesy of Bleacher Report, CBS Sports, ESPN, Football Guys, Football Outsiders, Mockdraftable, NFL.com, NFL Draft Scout, NJ.com, Player Profiler, Pro Football Focus, Pro Football Reference, Ourlads, Over the Cap, Relative Athletic Scores, Roster Resource, Rotoworld, Sharp Football Stats and Tracking Football*
 
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