NBA OFF TOPIC THREAD

[fightinfunbags]

If the PAC can keep Oregon, Utah and UW...plus Wazzou, OSU, Stanford and Cal. That wouldn't be too bad. They could maybe pick up 2 or 3 more teams. Not sure who...(maybe SDSU, Boise and Nevada?) and still be a decent P5 conference. They obviously wouldn't be on par with SEC or B1G, but they'd be in the mix with the Big 12 and ACC.

Would help if they could keep the AZ schools too.

I don’t know that the Big 12 or ACC will have that staying power after expansion is actually finished. I think it’s just a matter of time before Clemson and FSU leave the ACC for the SEC. That will likely trigger North Carolina and UVA to the Big Ten. I think the writing is on the wall for ND to ultimately join the B10.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Jalen Ramsey needs surgery....out 6-8 weeks.

 

[thunderc]

I don’t know that the Big 12 or ACC will have that staying power after expansion is actually finished. I think it’s just a matter of time before Clemson and FSU leave the ACC for the SEC. That will likely trigger North Carolina and UVA to the Big Ten. I think the writing is on the wall for ND to ultimately join the B10.

Pretty sure the Big 12 and ACC got some guarantees by agreeing to the expanded playoff. The conference champions will continue to get a spot. Doubtful those conferences will get more than one spot most years.

 

[trojanfan12]

I have to think the AZ schools are what the big 12 wants most now that they have BYU and Colorado.

Probably. That's where it could get really interesting.

 

[The Q]

BYU enters the big 12 this season and Colorado next. Rumors flying that Utah, ASU and AZ are soon to follow. Louisville, Cincy and UCF are also in right now.

I'm still hoping UConn gets the invite.

 

[bksballer89]

Spence or Crawford?

 

[DJ Fieri]

Spence or Crawford?

Crawford. He is the best fighter in the game.

Should be a great fight and prolly the fight of the year.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[tlance]

Cool....but if you believe other teams offered to rip up his deal (and I don't know if you do as you are for some reason scared to answer) you don't know how high they were willing to go.

What we do know for fact is that it was less high than Cleveland was willing to go.

 

[tlance]

Doctor on Twitter is offering opinion that it might just be a calf strain.

Kevin Durant just had a calf strain too.

If that is the case, Important thing here is to give it time to fully heal before pushing it.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Kevin Durant just had a calf strain too.

If that is the case, Important thing here is to give it time to fully heal before pushing it.

Yep. There are different grades of strain.


For everybody else…my bad if I pissed anybody off yesterday offering the opinion that it was the Achilles. When I first saw the play I saw a non contact injury that didn’t involve any plant and cut and him pulling up lame and grabbing at his calf. The Achilles pops I’ve seen have been consistent with the pain manifesting in the calf. All things considered this was the best case scenario for Burrow. These 5 weeks are rough. You are holding your breath that a guy doesn’t get banged up, miss time, or even a season because of them doing the prep work to get ready for the grind.

 

[dtgold88]

What we do know for fact is that it was less high than Cleveland was willing to go.

We actually don't know that. There's never been a time 2 teams offered a guy the same amount and he had to choose 1? I get your answer will be something like but it's a 100% guarantee and that's true but to think it's so outlandish someone was willing to go that high for a QB in his prime they clearly wanted is kooky talk.

 

[tlance]

We actually don't know that. There's never been a time 2 teams offered a guy the same amount and he had to choose 1? I get your answer will be something like but it's a 100% guarantee and that's true but to think it's so outlandish someone was willing to go that high for a QB in his prime they clearly wanted is kooky talk.

We really do though

Common sense with regards to how it played out.

Cleveland was willing to pay more and they got their guy. That is all that matters.

And tough to say a guy a year and half removed from playing NFL football is in his prime. He should be in terms of age, but that is a lot of time to develop rust that definitely showed last year.

 

[dtgold88]

We really do though

Common sense with regards to how it played out.

Cleveland was willing to pay more and they got their guy. That is all that matters.

And tough to say a guy a year and half removed from playing NFL football is in his prime. He should be in terms of age, but that is a lot of time to develop rust that definitely showed last year.

Being away as long as he has been could be an issue for sure though that was not known when he was on the market (how long he'd be out).

FYI, I'm not even saying it's likely someone would offer that much but the idea no one would is just not something we know. It's not outlandish to think someone would. Also possible someone offered a larger deal, but not 100% guarantee (though a sizeable guarantee). we don't know what anyone else offered.

all that said just glad we got our guy as you kind of mentioned and the Browns should not care if any other teams don't like it.

 

[thunderc]

We really do though

Common sense with regards to how it played out.

Cleveland was willing to pay more and they got their guy. That is all that matters.

And tough to say a guy a year and half removed from playing NFL football is in his prime. He should be in terms of age, but that is a lot of time to develop rust that definitely showed last year.

100%, plus let’s not act like there weren’t teams that weren’t touching him with a 1000 ft pole either.

 

[msgkings322]

Looks like a literal midget/dwarf with the pads and helmet on, makes the proportions look like that

Another analogy: Spud Webb

 

[dtgold88]

100%, plus let’s not act like there weren’t teams that weren’t touching him with a 1000 ft pole either.

Were there? Likely some....Again it's hard to say who would have at least kicked the tires of all the teams who needed a QB and thought they could contend within a year or 2. But a team with a QB or looking to tank? Of course that team wouldn't want him....and not necessarily because of his off field issues. For sure the off field issues would have made a team who was not sure pull back though.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

props to that man getting hit by enormous human beings

 

[fightinfunbags]

Being away as long as he has been could be an issue for sure though that was not known when he was on the market (how long he'd be out).

FYI, I'm not even saying it's likely someone would offer that much but the idea no one would is just not something we know. It's not outlandish to think someone would. Also possible someone offered a larger deal, but not 100% guarantee (though a sizeable guarantee). we don't know what anyone else offered.

all that said just glad we got our guy as you kind of mentioned and the Browns should not care if any other teams don't like it.

Do you think that’s plausible knowing what we know?
1. Browns were out of the running.
2. Not only did the Browns get back in the running they leap frogged the other teams in on it.
3. Cleveland fully guaranteed his contract, a rare move in a league that does everything they can to not guarantee the contract.
4. All of the reporting on this after has been almost universal criticism by front office types for this move to fully guarantee the contract. This culminates in the Lamar Jackson negotiations and all sorts of leaks around the league front offices essentially saying “one bad deal from Cleveland shouldn’t be used to reset the market.”

Knowing all of that you think it’s possible that another club offered the same fully guaranteed contract and he said Nah, I wanna be a Brown. That sounds plausible to you?

 

[dtgold88]

Do you think that’s plausible knowing what we know?
1. Browns were out of the running.
2. Not only did the Browns get back in the running they leap frogged the other teams in on it.
3. Cleveland fully guaranteed his contract, a rare move in a league that does everything they can to not guarantee the contract.
4. All of the reporting on this after has been almost universal criticism by front office types for this move to fully guarantee the contract. This culminates in the Lamar Jackson negotiations and all sorts of leaks around the league front offices essentially saying “one bad deal from Cleveland shouldn’t be used to reset the market.”

Knowing all of that you think it’s possible that another club offered the same fully guaranteed contract and he said Nah, I wanna be a Brown. That sounds plausible to you?

yes. admittedly I might think differently if not for the dregs in the running (NO, Atl and Carolina). could not have been hard to convince him if he wants to win Cleveland is the best option. Carolina was also out of it at the time so, hell, it's possible they made the same effort or even others tried to match it after the Browns made their offer.

It's actually not a bad deal by the Browns if watson plays well....and if doesn't it's a bad deal even if 50% was guaranteed.