Mock Draft Chat

[Nosferatu]

I'm trying to do math while I'm high, but what about a double partner draft? Each owner will team up with 2 different owners and be drafting for 2 teams. Let's say, we get 10 people. Owners 1 and 2 form team 1. Owners 2 and 3 form team 2. 3 and 4 are team 3, 4 and 5, 6 and 7 and so on until it flips back to 10 and 1 forming team 10. So, it's a partner draft, but everyone has 2 teams with 2 different partners.

I did a lot of drugs when I was younger and somehow this still doesn't make sense to me...

 

[Shanemansj13]

I'm trying to do math while I'm high, but what about a double partner draft? Each owner will team up with 2 different owners and be drafting for 2 teams. Let's say, we get 10 people. Owners 1 and 2 form team 1. Owners 2 and 3 form team 2. 3 and 4 are team 3, 4 and 5, 6 and 7 and so on until it flips back to 10 and 1 forming team 10. So, it's a partner draft, but everyone has 2 teams with 2 different partners.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I like the idea division but I would expand on your idea some...

1998 Division and WC Draft

8 teams: NYY, CLE, TEX, BOS, ATL, HOU, CHI and SDP

You draft 18 players. 9 lineup, 5 SP's and 4 RP's

You draft 2 players from each team and you have two WC picks (any player for any team or any year).

Draft one player per team for 1998 and that specific team
Player had to have played for the team at some point in their career AND played in that year, 1998. (2 years or 300 games to qualify for team)

Draft one player per team but year doesn't matter
Player had to have played for the team at some point in their career in any year. (5 years or 800 games to qualify for team)

A spin off of this idea since it seems like nobody is going for this one.

The 8 Team and Year Draft

Teams
Red Sox, A's, White Sox, Tigers, Cardinals, Cubs, Phillies, Giants

Years
1888, 1908, 1928, 1948, 1968, 1988, 1998, 2008

Draft 18 players
16 - Pick a player for each year and each team
2 - Two Wildcards

Year - played one game in that year to qualify
Team - 4 years or 600 games for that team to qualify

 

[tducey]

I'm not sure I like the 1888 idea but other yrs. work. Maybe do it 1910-1999, with the yrs. in ? being the 0's and 9's of each decade. 2 players per yr.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I'm not sure I like the 1888 idea but other yrs. work. Maybe do it 1910-1999, with the yrs. in ? being the 0's and 9's of each decade. 2 players per yr.

Actually now that gives me an idea for a salary cap draft idea...

Salary Cap Division Draft

Cutoff year 2010
Salary Cap - $180 total
$30 per division (AL East, AL Central, AL West, NL East, NL Central, NL West)

You don't have to select 3 players per division though but you cannot put money into other divisions.

You cannot use the same team for a player.
4 years or 600 games to qualify for a team.

Position requirements - 200 games

$1 = AS Appearance
$25 = Ruth, Bonds, Walter
$20 = Pre All-Star players

 

[tducey]

I'm in for anything.

 

[Nosferatu]

Actually now that gives me an idea for a salary cap draft idea...

Salary Cap Division Draft

Cutoff year 2010
Salary Cap - $180 total
$30 per division (AL East, AL Central, AL West, NL East, NL Central, NL West)

You don't have to select 3 players per division though but you cannot put money into other divisions.

You cannot use the same team for a player.
4 years or 600 games to qualify for a team.

Position requirements - 200 games

$1 = AS Appearance
$25 = Ruth, Bonds, Walter
$20 = Pre All-Star players

HOW 'BOUT we combine the two ideas?

Yankees/Rays
Cardinals/Marlins
Giants/Rangers
Red Sox/Royals
Dodgers/Blue Jays
Athletics/Mets
Tigers/Padres
Reds/Brewers
Cubs/Astros
Braves/Rockies
Pirates/Diamondbacks
Orioles/Angels
Phillies/Mariners
Twins/Indians
White Sox/Nationals

I may change the teams around but we do Shane's idea but if you take a Yankees player you must select a player who played for the Rays at some point.

Just a thought.

Also we can include current players and make them $15 and pre 1933 players also $15.

 

[Hall]

Would it ever be possible to allow for a value-based upon WAR or some other method as opposed to All Star Games? I

It would hurt some players who snuck under the radar back in the day but not as badly as making all modern guys $15 when there's only be 14 guys ever to hit 15 ASGs.

I have access to Baseball Reference player index and its easy to search up and create lists - can even add bonus for high value seasons like all of Ruth's 10+ WAR seasons or what have you.

 

[Hall]

For example under the last Cap draft I can remember.

Robinson Cano and Ryne Sandberg are by all acounts are in the same realm of players at 2b. Cano better hitter Sandberg a better fielder with a probably better peak.

Cano costing $15 vs Sandberg's 8 is a massive jump. Where in 4+ WAR Seasons, Cano is at 8 and Sandberg is at 7.

Food for thought.

 

[Shanemansj13]

HOW 'BOUT we combine the two ideas?

Yankees/Rays
Cardinals/Marlins
Giants/Rangers
Red Sox/Royals
Dodgers/Blue Jays
Athletics/Mets
Tigers/Padres
Reds/Brewers
Cubs/Astros
Braves/Rockies
Pirates/Diamondbacks
Orioles/Angels
Phillies/Mariners
Twins/Indians
White Sox/Nationals

I may change the teams around but we do Shane's idea but if you take a Yankees player you must select a player who played for the Rays at some point.

Just a thought.

Also we can include current players and make them $15 and pre 1933 players also $15.

Sounds good to me. I nice little mix of ideas, so no cap per divison?

@Nosferatu

 

[CitySushi]

For example under the last Cap draft I can remember.

Robinson Cano and Ryne Sandberg are by all acounts are in the same realm of players at 2b. Cano better hitter Sandberg a better fielder with a probably better peak.

Cano costing $15 vs Sandberg's 8 is a massive jump. Where in 4+ WAR Seasons, Cano is at 8 and Sandberg is at 7.

Food for thought.

I mean in general that might be a good way of judging the players actual value relative to the cap, but it just creates so much more work for everyone to try to figure out that I don't think many would go for it around here.

Me for example, I'd be out if I had to look all that stuff up. I just don't have the time to sort player indexes and look up WAR seasons. It's just easier to look up how many all-star games they have and be done with it.

 

[Shanemansj13]

For example under the last Cap draft I can remember.

Robinson Cano and Ryne Sandberg are by all acounts are in the same realm of players at 2b. Cano better hitter Sandberg a better fielder with a probably better peak.

Cano costing $15 vs Sandberg's 8 is a massive jump. Where in 4+ WAR Seasons, Cano is at 8 and Sandberg is at 7.

Food for thought.

If we did a different salary system for current players we could do something like this:

$1 per AS appearance + $2 per MVP/Cy Young
If they had a Cy Young or MVP in the same season, you count one

But a current players salary cannot exceed $15

So, examples:

Pujols $15
Votto $8
Trout $14
Cano $8
Verlander $12
Scherzer $13
Kershaw $14

 

[Hall]

I mean in general that might be a good way of judging the players actual value relative to the cap, but it just creates so much more work for everyone to try to figure out that I don't think many would go for it around here.

Me for example, I'd be out if I had to look all that stuff up. I just don't have the time to sort player indexes and look up WAR seasons. It's just easier to look up how many all-star games they have and be done with it.

Sorry I guess I didn't explain, I am willing to just look up and create a google doc once we agreed on parameters.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I mean in general that might be a good way of judging the players actual value relative to the cap, but it just creates so much more work for everyone to try to figure out that I don't think many would go for it around here.

Me for example, I'd be out if I had to look all that stuff up. I just don't have the time to sort player indexes and look up WAR seasons. It's just easier to look up how many all-star games they have and be done with it.

then do WAR7. That is already a real stat on baseball reference. And when you compare players of the same positions that is the 2nd stat listed.

 

[Hall]

If we did a different salary system for current players we could do something like this:

$1 per AS appearance + $2 per MVP/Cy Young
If they had a Cy Young or MVP in the same season, you count one

But a current players salary cannot exceed $15

So, examples:

Pujols $15
Votto $8
Trout $14
Cano $8
Verlander $12
Scherzer $13
Kershaw $14

That is a possible solution.

 

[Shanemansj13]

then do WAR7. That is already a real stat on baseball reference. And when you compare players of the same positions that is the 2nd stat listed.

how do we make a salary out of WAR?

 

[Nosferatu]

how do we make a salary out of WAR?

We should axe a politician.

 

[tducey]

So did we decide on what we’re doing?

 

[UK Cowboy]

What about a cap based on per 162 game Average and HR's combined?

Any hitter below .250 per 162 is zero, .250 is baseline. Every 10 points of average above .250 is $1 in cap space. Same with HR's. 10 is base number. Every 5 HR's above 10 is $1.

So...I draft a player with a career per 162 of .312 and 32 HR's. He would cost me $6 for average and $6 for power so $12 overall. We could use modern players doing this

 

[Hall]

What about a cap based on per 162 game Average and HR's combined?

Any hitter below .250 per 162 is zero, .250 is baseline. Every 10 points of average above .250 is $1 in cap space. Same with HR's. 10 is base number. Every 5 HR's above 10 is $1.

So...I draft a player with a career per 162 of .312 and 32 HR's. He would cost me $6 for average and $6 for power so $12 overall. We could use modern players doing this

I'm interested