Matheny

[DrewScott]

Every fan of every team thinks their manager is an idiot, ESPECIALLY when it comes to handling the bullpen. Joe Girardi Yankees basically won the division and made playoffs 10 straight years, and he was hated by the fans. Joe Maddon ends a 100 year WS drought and there are lots of Cubs fans who think he's clueless. Same with Larussa, Scocia, Showalter, etc. There's only 2 or 3 bullpens a year that are really good, the rest of them are a nightly crapshoot with the manager getting the blame when the "closer" blows it.

 

[tducey]

Not surprised to see this. I never liked this hire. Wonder who they hire full time for that job.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Every fan of every team thinks their manager is an idiot, ESPECIALLY when it comes to handling the bullpen. Joe Girardi Yankees basically won the division and made playoffs 10 straight years, and he was hated by the fans. Joe Maddon ends a 100 year WS drought and there are lots of Cubs fans who think he's clueless. Same with Larussa, Scocia, Showalter, etc. There's only 2 or 3 bullpens a year that are really good, the rest of them are a nightly crapshoot with the manager getting the blame when the "closer" blows it.

My complaint isn't when the closer blows it. Every closer is gonna blow one every now and then. My beef with Snitker is he'll pull the starter after 6 in a tight ball game with only 80 pitches and then put the game in the hands of a very questionable bullpen knowing full well that every inning our starter can give us greatly increases our chances of victory.

And he seems to be completely oblivious to the extreme reverse splits of Jesse Biddle. He's a lefty, but left handed hitters are hitting like .360 against him while righties are batting under .100, yet he brought in Biddle to face Curtis Granderson. Luckily the Jays manager is a tardo too and pinch hit for Granderson.

 

[jwolt92]

Well they don't exactly require the same skill set. Plenty of good hitters have been bad coaches and vice versa.

That being said I have no idea what kind of job Mabry did there so I am certainly not defending him.

Dexter Fowler went to the pitching coach to see if there was a way to break out of his slump.. not Mabry

 

[GNG]

IS GONE

WOOOOO

So is Mabry who apparently was good enough of a hitter (.263 career average) to be a hitting coach.

Matheny is a good manager and is being made a scapegoat.

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

Every fan of every team thinks their manager is an idiot, ESPECIALLY when it comes to handling the bullpen. Joe Girardi Yankees basically won the division and made playoffs 10 straight years, and he was hated by the fans. Joe Maddon ends a 100 year WS drought and there are lots of Cubs fans who think he's clueless. Same with Larussa, Scocia, Showalter, etc. There's only 2 or 3 bullpens a year that are really good, the rest of them are a nightly crapshoot with the manager getting the blame when the "closer" blows it.

Showalter never won a WS. At least the others you mentioned achieved that and that is what its ALL ABOUT. Showalter is wound too tight and can't hold a clubhouse. Freaking Bob Brenley took a Diamondbacks team all they way and HE was clueless

 

[Clayton]

Every fan of every team thinks their manager is an idiot, ESPECIALLY when it comes to handling the bullpen. Joe Girardi Yankees basically won the division and made playoffs 10 straight years, and he was hated by the fans. Joe Maddon ends a 100 year WS drought and there are lots of Cubs fans who think he's clueless. Same with Larussa, Scocia, Showalter, etc. There's only 2 or 3 bullpens a year that are really good, the rest of them are a nightly crapshoot with the manager getting the blame when the "closer" blows it.

I agree with you but some of the locker room issues the Cards have allegedly had the past two seasons have been suspicious enough to think that STL needs a change.

 

[JohnU]

Part of the problem with managing a team now is that clubhouse issues that used to get settled among men in a men's environment now get spread all over the Twitter board by free-lance scribes who amble around the locker room looking for scoops. They forgot, or never were taught, that what happens in the clubhouse stays there.

So matters like hazing and "chemistry" get shared by the whole world now and the manager sometimes -- and this isn't always fair -- can't handle it like they did in the olden days ... 'look boys, go around behind the whirlpool and settle it.'

Not saying that has anything to do with managing skill ... Matheny harvested some success from a roster he didn't help build. Now the team is in need of a real upgrade and he is being asked to win with some guys who probably wouldn't make the roster under other conditions. Honestly, that infield is lame.

The bullpen is a crap shoot and there's not much there. No thump in the lineup. That's not on Matheny. Some other stuff, maybe.

Every manager now has to deal with a $100-million payroll, and a group of butt-scratching Twitter scribes.