Lots O good FA RB/WR

[SteelersPride]

Y! SPORTS

the top 15 rb's intrigue me

 

[Midnightangel]

Y! SPORTS

the top 15 rb's intrigue me

Why?

We got one in the draft last year that would have had 1,000 had he been healthy all year. The problem with FA RB's is that the shelf life of a RB is very short in the NFL.

As for the list of WR's, as with most FA's they're going to want top dollar - and some are worth it. I don't know that we can afford to pay any of them that amount. We'd be doing good just to keep Sanders - who's on the list and the Jets will be going after.

 

[NinerSickness]

Add Sidney Rice & probably Chris Johnson to that WR / RB list.

There's a good chance Santonio Holmes gets cut too.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

This is going to be a crazy FA period... I know most of the bigger names will be signed to extensions, but some crazy shit could happen.

 

[Jakology]

I'd like the Dolphins to take a look at quite a few of those RBs and see if they can bring one in for cheap. Which I think they can when it comes to players like Dixon, Gerhart, and Dwyer. The Dolphins need a big back to come in and take some pressure off Tannehill. I'd like Gerhart myself. I would say just draft an RB, but the O line class is so deep that I'd rather use our early picks on O line. Maybe spend a later pick on another RB. But the guys I listed have played, and showed that they can play in the league, and you don't have to overpay for them, so why not? And they're 26 and under so you can get at least 3 good years out of them.

 

[Doublejive]

I posted about the large amount of FA's last week and was called out as i did not know what the hell i was talking about,wrong.

Fact is,is there is ton's this year with mid age players that can fit hole's,roles etc for many team that will have an affect on bargaining power by the agents,it has a ton to do with the new rules etc.

 

[Doublejive]

Teams management are going YOUNGER,the day's of paying for so called Superstar's is coming to a close and the reason being is why pay that much when you can have say four or five guys that are above average for the price of one guy? it doesn't make sense nor does it work anymore.

Thus the downward pressure on the agents whining about salary's,that is the the NFL.

 

[geezer]

So if a player signs a contract for "pedestrian" money at his position but it is loaded with incentives and bonuses, does it all add together and still count against the salary cap?

 

[Doublejive]

Take Vic for instance he is a good QB if given the weapons,say for instance Houston grabs him for 12 million a year and uses the pick for one of the better QB's in the draft,,,you dont think the Texans would be dangerous this season if they did?

Oh yes they would.

 

[Doublejive]

So if a player signs a contract for "pedestrian" money at his position but it is loaded with incentives and bonuses, does it all add together and still count against the salary cap?

That depends if it is front loaded or not,signing bonuses go far but are limited.

Then you have production clauses etc etc.

 

[Doublejive]

For instance Bennett with the Hawks earned an extra 200k or more cant recall on incentives for his production by numbers,sacks etc.

Harvin has incentives in his contract as well.

 

[Doublejive]

The thing about Bennett for us the Hawks is that he will want a id say a four year for roughly 30 million or so maybe and i do not believe that is feasible.

However he does love the organization and could sign for say a two year deal for maybe 20 million or so.

 

[Jakology]

Take Vic for instance he is a good QB if given the weapons,say for instance Houston grabs him for 12 million a year and uses the pick for one of the better QB's in the draft,,,you dont think the Texans would be dangerous this season if they did?

Oh yes they would.

I don't know if Vick fits in with what the Texans like to do. Lets be honest, you can't trust Vick to produce in a traditional offense. You have to be willing to let him play his game and make things happen and pray that he doesn't take a big hit. One team that could make sense is the Vikings. Him and AP could be perfect for each other and could be a sight to see if the Vikings can tailor an offense for Vick.

 

[Doublejive]

I don't know if Vick fits in with what the Texans like to do. Lets be honest, you can't trust Vick to produce in a traditional offense. You have to be willing to let him play his game and make things happen and pray that he doesn't take a big hit. One team that could make sense is the Vikings. Him and AP could be perfect for each other and could be a sight to see if the Vikings can tailor an offense for Vick.

Maybe,but the NFL is moving faster,produce or you walk and all options are open and the Texans not only need,they must have a QB that can produce today,not last week but today.

Texans have a very good Oline, and Defense,the window will close unless they do it.

 

[Jakology]

Maybe,but the NFL is moving faster,produce or you walk and all options are open and the Texans not only need,they must have a QB that can produce today,not last week but today.

Texans have a very good Oline, and Defense,the window will close unless they do it.

True. But they don't need a lights out, flashy guy. They can work with a game manager and should be able to make a run with one.

 

[Doublejive]

Remember the Texans were what number 3 or so this last year in the power rankings,at least in the top five if i recall correctly.

 

[Doublejive]

True. But they don't need a lights out, flashy guy. They can work with a game manager and should be able to make a run with one.

No after what happened last year with Schaub the management need's to be bold,i watched them because i feared them to be honest.

 

[WizardHawk]

Bonuses do count toward the cap. There are two kinds: likely to happen, and unlikely to happen. With both there is a formula for figuring the average and that is used toward the cap. If more hit than the estimate then the overage is added the next year and those unspent the come under are taken off the next year. It isn't bonuses that teams use to spread out costs, it is signing bonuses.

 

[Jakology]

No after what happened last year with Schaub the management need's to be bold,i watched them because i feared them to be honest.

Schaub was not playing like a true game manager. A game manager would be someone who doesn't try to do it all and doesn't pass more than 20 or 30 times a game, and doesn't make mistakes.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Bonuses do count toward the cap. There are two kinds: likely to happen, and unlikely to happen. With both there is a formula for figuring the average and that is used toward the cap. If more hit than the estimate then the overage is added the next year and those unspent the come under are taken off the next year. It isn't bonuses that teams use to spread out costs, it is signing bonuses.

Good info Wizard. I wasn't sure how these incentive bonuses worked myself.