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You know what I'm replying to.

A rule and a specific order are not the same thing. They aren't similar. They cannot be compared like they are the same thing.
 

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You know what I'm replying to.

A rule and a specific order are not the same thing. They aren't similar. They cannot be compared like they are the same thing.

So a rule is not a specific order in your book? Okay.
 

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That's funny... you calling someone else a troll in what is just another one of your troll threads aimed at Detroit fans. Fwiw, there are about 30 other teams that would gladly sign Suh if he was available. You kid yourself if you think otherwise.


its aimed at Suh...his same crap every year is getting freakin OLD...and it would on ANY team, maybe even the Raiders nowadays. I would trash Suh on any team, just like I will continue to trash Fielder as a Ranger.

The fun part is he happens to play for Detroit...thats just a bonus.

PS, yes I also trashed Lawrence Phillips and the old Oakland Raiders too, ya must have missed those too.
 
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No. It is not.
 

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I do not know if it is a rule. If it is it is a bad one.


Again, and I don't know how many times I have to say this to make it clear, breaking a rule is very different from disobeying a straight directive from a superior.

It is definitely a rule. I remember in the late 90's players were doing it all the time. The league immediately put a stop to it and banned the gesture all together.

If an idiot like Suh can't control his emotions, he deserves to be fined. I am totally fine with it.
 

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It is definitely a rule. I remember in the late 90's players were doing it all the time. The league immediately put a stop to it and banned the gesture all together.

If an idiot like Suh can't control his emotions, he deserves to be fined. I am totally fine with it.

Suh could be NEB next football coach, he acts like Bo Pellini, lol
 

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its aimed at Suh...his same crap every year is getting freakin OLD...and it would on ANY team, maybe even the Raiders nowadays.

Whatever Bums. We have 2 beasts at DT with anger management issues. I'm not sweatin it. They're working on it.
 

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Suh is too good of a player, I do believe that, to be doing this year after year after year.
 

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Your shenanigans would be better served with someone else. Compare the two by definition and then come back to me.

I'm not sure what JDM is talking about either. If a superior at you job gives you an order, it's a rule. I know an order in the military is considered law. If you don't follow the order, you are in deep shit. :noidea:
 

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Whatever Bums. We have 2 beasts at DT with anger management issues. I'm not sweatin it. They're working on it.

You'll be sweatin it if they are suspended for a meaningful game because of their anger issues.
 

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I'm not sure what JDM is talking about either. If a superior at you job gives you an order, it's a rule. I know an order in the military is considered law. If you don't follow the order, you are in deep shit. :noidea:

He is trying to compare this rule violation to me saying a guy deliberately disobeying a direct order should be fired. Violating a rule is not the same as direct disobedience. It's not on a similar level.
 

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I'm not sure what JDM is talking about either. If a superior at you job gives you an order, it's a rule. I know an order in the military is considered law. If you don't follow the order, you are in deep shit. :noidea:

He's the site, contrarian. He likes to swim below the trolls but slightly troll. He gets away with it because he doesn't call people names but I know what he's doing. He's intelligent enough to make it fun.
 

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You'll be sweatin it if they are suspended for a meaningful game because of their anger issues.

The stomp was 2 years ago. Since then it's been mostly piddly-assed and downright bogus crap. I'm very happy they play for the team I root for.
 

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He's the site, contrarian. He likes to swim below the trolls but slightly troll. He gets away with it because he doesn't call people names but I know what he's doing. He's intelligent enough to make it fun.

I believe everything I post :thumb:
 

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He is trying to compare this rule violation to me saying a guy deliberately disobeying a direct order should be fired. Violating a rule is not the same as direct disobedience. It's not on a similar level.

Actually, it could be construed that way. The difference is that being a manger at a pizza joint and being a big time player in the NFL are slightly different.
 

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If goodell came on the field and told him not to do that, then he did it anyways, then the situations are comparable. Until then they aren't close.

NFL players are people too, though.
 

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If goodell came on the field and told him not to do that, then he did it anyways, then the situations are comparable. Until then they aren't close.

NFL players are people too, though.

:wtf2: Goodell DID tell him not to do that, by keeping the rule in the rule book, lol, wtf are you even trying to explain, each time you just dig the hole deeper. You can actually say I am wrong and look alot more intelligent and honest in everyone's eyes, the foolish answer is to keep fighting for whatever point nobody understands but you.

Good call Waz, lol.
 

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I know what JDM is trying to say, he is just not explaining it correctly. An action done in the heat of the moment such as a celebration that is illegal is not necessarily insubordinate; it is a mistake. However, not listening to a superior telling you to do something, is not a mistake, it is a intentional act of insubordination. What Suh did is like your manager telling you not to swear in the office yet, you spill your coffee and in the moment shout out "oh shit". Direct insubordination is your manager telling you to go file those papers and you telling him "no" to his face. If you cannot see the difference in the two, you are mentally retarded. And I don't mean that as a message board flame troll type talk. If you can't see the difference between the two, you are absolutely 100% mentally retarded.

BTW, I bet Pizza Hut realizes although they had the right to fire the dude, it causes a shit storm of bad publicity far worse than the revenue they would have lost from having the one single closed that day when it should have been open.
 
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