Lions/Dolphins Rush Defense Wager thread

[TrustMeIamRight]

Lions won their season opener last 4 years w Suh
Lions lose their first season opener without Suh

Fact.

I'm going out on a limb and saying the zero QB pressures, zero run stops and zero sacks from Suh through week 1 wouldn't have helped the Lions this year. That is just a guess though.

Like I said -- take off the blinders next time you watch Miami. The Dolphins won despite the lack of ANY production from Suh (other than the solo tackle 9 yards down the field on Morris).

 

[RobBase]

Suh had a great QB pressure that forced a Brent Grimes INT. Guess that didn't make your independent study.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Suh had a great QB pressure that forced a Brent Grimes INT. Guess that didn't make your independent study.

Yeah -- now statisticians are out to get Suh.

Maybe they should hire an unbiased person like yourself to track stats for them

 

[RobBase]

PFF once ranked Ravioli as the best C in the NFL. If that's your bible, that's your business.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

PFF once ranked Ravioli as the best C in the NFL. If that's your bible, that's your business.

And they once ranked Suh the top run stopping DT. I completely understand what you are saying. This is so much fun.

 

[RobBase]

And they once ranked Suh the top run stopping DT. I completely understand what you are saying. This is so much fun.

Why is it fun for you to make fun of me for being a fan of a player who isn't on the Lions?

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Why is it fun for you to make fun of me for being a fan of a player who isn't on the Lions?

I'm a fan of Suh too. I'm just not in stalker status like yourself.

And it isn't making fun of you -- it is pointing out the hypocrisy, when you want to use PFF to prove a point about Suh, only to try and say it is worthless when it doesn't support your view.

 

[RobBase]

PFF is trash. Me using it against you PFF lovers was me getting your goats as usual. How do you guys not get that when I say things like "your beloved PFF..."

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

PFF is trash. Me using it against you PFF lovers was me getting your goats as usual. How do you guys not get that when I say things like "your beloved PFF..."

Who is "you PFF lovers"? I despise the site. I don't even understand 99% of the stats they put out, nor do I want to figure them out.

All I did was use the same tool you did to argue for Suh and used it against you. It just so happens, that after 1 week, Suh not only graded out worse than Tyrunn Walker, but also Ngata, who you called garbage.

I just put the pieces together for you. You know -- Facts, not logic.

 

[RobBase]

It's not always about you, dawg.

 

[RobBase]

Ngata is garbage. As if the Ravens just traded away some Pro Bowl run stopper for nothing because he's awesome.

C'mon dawg.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Ngata is garbage. As if the Ravens just traded away some Pro Bowl run stopper for nothing because he's awesome.

C'mon dawg.

At least he isn't fecal matter though. Detroit let Suh walk away for nothing. At least Ngata netted the Ravens a couple draft picks.

Even in terms of changing teams -- Ngata > Suh

 

[Quackerjacked]

Just watched every play. Ngata looked pretty good. I will give Rob a nod and say I would like to see him out there more. The problem with Sunday is how they beat us. He is not very explosive, but he was good in the run game, and he collapsed the pocket the rare instances when the ball wasn't thrown immediately. They ran a fuck ton of draws and got rid of the ball extremely quickly. Almost every pass that took more than 2.5 seconds was incomplete or a sack. The defensive line was no the problem Sunday (except one missed tackle and a time or two that Cudjo got mauled by the double team.)

 

[Mebert]

At least he isn't fecal matter though. Detroit let Suh walk away for nothing. At least Ngata netted the Ravens a couple draft picks.

Even in terms of changing teams -- Ngata > Suh

Suh netted the Lions a third round pick

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Suh netted the Lions a third round pick

We should easily be able to draft his replacement in the 3rd round, so at least we got that going for us.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Almost every pass that took more than 2.5 seconds was incomplete or a sack. The defensive line was no the problem Sunday

Are you saying Rob is a liar? How dare you!!!!

 

[RobBase]

@TrustMeIamRight I'm going to need you to please prove to me you know how to insert your avatar. At this point I'm not so sure you'd play dumb and claim you couldn't figure it out should I win our bet.

So, put up any avatar please, Lions logo, whatever. Just to prove you know how. Only because you've never had one.

Thanks in advance.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

I will leave this thread for you to update. I'm going to take a break from the Lions board for a little while. Best of luck on the wager and take care of those little guys!!

 

[RobBase]

An 0-2 start will do that to some people. Take care.

 

[RobBase]

Detroit Lions second look: Defensive tackles get dominated on Adrian Peterson's best runs

www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/09/detroit_lions_second_look_adri.html

"Suh is gone, Nick Fairley is gone and C.J. Mosley is gone. The lone holdover from the group, Caraun Reid, hasn't played because of an ankle injury.

And so far, the re-made defensive tackle grouping, led by Haloti Ngata, isn't just struggling to match the dominance of last year's group, they're struggling to be average."