Leaping player 'code'

[JustAsking]

Now hockey 'codes' of honor are a treaky thing... some folks appreciate them so don't... and this one I'm not sure is one, so I ask...

This thought came about watching the Pens Leafs game... is there a code like when one player is one ice the another player leaps over him, should the player on the ice try and remain low as possible or should they raise themselves up making contact with the player leaping... this is the hit on Sid, the announcers kept calling it a big hit, to me sid tried to jump over him and the player just, IMO, had a cheap move by raising into sid and sedning him into the boards... the play was fine, but I was wondering if that was some type of code that was broken, like don't throw a punch and the guy is on the ice... if you are on the ice and someone jumps over you, do raise up into him making him lose balance...

just wondered if that play could have been considered border line cheap amongst hockey players... not the rule book.

 

[BadMotoWeazal]

I didn't see the play, but I'm telling you if I'm on the ice & somebody is jumping over me, yeah I'm gonna try to knock him down as I get up. I'm not gonna stick my leg out or hang my stick into his skates but I have much more of a right to get up as he does jumping over me. And he has the opportunity to go around my ice.

 

[elocomotive]

No, there is no "code" related to that. -Eric Holder

Also, here is the video of the "hit." Your description is a little off...the player was getting up and Crosby was jumping to avoid him pretty much at the same time. If anything, Franson was starting to get up and Crosby made the decision the easiest way to avoid him would be going over him. He's damn good, but that was probably not Crosby's best decision of the night.


(ps - that was awesome, it was like an inverted hip check)

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

I didn't see the play, but I'm telling you if I'm on the ice & somebody is jumping over me, yeah I'm gonna try to knock him down as I get up. I'm not gonna stick my leg out or hang my stick into his skates but I have much more of a right to get up as he does jumping over me. And he has the opportunity to go around my ice.

This

jumping over me with 2 knives possibly coming down on a part of my body with your full weight on said knives?

Yeah, I'm not laying there and hoping you timed the jump right.

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

(ps - that was awesome)

 

[Eddie_Shack]

No, there is no "code" related to that. -Eric Holder

Also, here is the video of the "hit." Your description is a little off...the player was getting up and Crosby was jumping to avoid him pretty much at the same time. If anything, Franson was starting to get up and Crosby made the decision the easiest way to avoid him would be going over him. He's damn good, but that was probably not Crosby's best decision of the night.


(ps - that was awesome, it was like an inverted hip check)

Oh sure, this coming from a guy who gave thousands of illegal hockey sticks to maple syrup cartels in Canada...

 

[Comeds]

If you are lying on the ice I think you should get up as quickly as possible. I am not s ure you should wait for players to leap over you. Not sure though.

 

[pixburgher66]

I didn't even think it was cheap. He was on his way up, Sid tried to avoid him. I mean, he's fine, so obviously that helps In fact he wasn't upset about it at all (which should tell you about the code), he just said "Yeah, got some good air time there."

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Even "IF" there was a code, I think it goes out the door when you're playing against Sidney Crosby.


That said, I didn't even think this was intentional. And if it was, I see nothing wrong with it. You take a risk when you leave your skates. Even the most skilled players like Sid have no control when something like this happens.

 

[forty_three]

This

jumping over me with 2 knives possibly coming down on a part of my body with your full weight on said knives?

Yeah, I'm not laying there and hoping you timed the jump right.

^^

Every practice starting at mite level, you do a drill aimed at teaching the kids how to get back up as fast as possible. When you are down, you are vulnerable. And you are unable to score a goal or help your teammates.

If a player is down, and has enough time to start to get up before you decide to start a jump, then you had time to go around him. If you take a helmet to the nuts... that's your fault.

 

[thedddd]

Not much of a hit. More of an avoidance of getting his knees taken out. The angle both of them were going at there was no other way to go.

But Franson did nothing wrong he did what he is taugh to get up and in Crosby's case was to avoid getting his knees taken out. From just the angle both were moving if he would not have leaped something would have gotten twisted, no other way to avoid the contact.

Like above not his best decision knowing full well the most fragile part of his body is his head (from the way he landed).

 

[Darkstone42]

Yeah, the two players were on a collision course. Crosby didn't have time to go around or stop, but going over seemed to prove foolish. It was probably the same instinct I would have had, though.

 

[Slimpikins]

I would get up as soon as possible. If I wait for an opponent to jump over me then I am probably out of position and he has the advantage. The last thing that I want to do is watch him score because I was trying to be nice.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

The hit, and Crosby's ability to get up right afterwords is a credit to how good, fast and strong the game and these players are.

The OP is a testimony to homerism and/or a complete lack of understanding of the game.

 

[JustAsking]

The hit, and Crosby's ability to get up right afterwords is a credit to how good, fast and strong the game and these players are.

The OP is a testimony to homerism and/or a complete lack of understanding of the game.

seriously... still?... thanks for reminding me why virtual converstaions ... never mind, and, silly me, for asking if taking a player's legs out while they are in mid-air could be considered cheap... I admit, I lost my Canadian Bible, aka, Hockey for Dummies. Hey it's cool, I like Les Stroud... no need to maple syrup and feather me.

 

[JustAsking]

If you can, go watch around 4:40 left in the 2nd period of the Pens/Rangers game... Richards is on the ice, Cooke leaps over him.. I guess Richards never played pee-wee hockey as he remained down on the ice not getting up to immediately get back in he play, or used his brains and could see they weren't in the play and no need to get up ASAP.. and Richards must want a death wish for staying on the ice and I guess hoping for sharp blades to be inserted in his back.. or perhaps he used his brain, again, and decided not to propel himself into blades by staying low and still... I'm just saying, based on all the hockey players on the board, that Richards missed a great chance to up end cooke in a 100% game respectful not borderline cheap hit ... tsk tsk brad.

seriously what is the difference.. .the speed?

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

Wow

Quite the douche response

If it was anyone but crosby you wouldn't give a fuck.

Let it go.

You asked for opinions... you were given them. You didn't like them. Not our fault.

 

[Dacks]

Depends on the situation, I guess. If you're sprawled out on the ice away from the play, and somebody jumps over to you to avoid you, you shouldn't get up. One, it would be interference or tripping, and secondly, they are probably trying to avoid hurting you, you shouldn't turn around and send them flying.

This was different, obviously. Crosby had just gotten rid of the puck, so was eligible to get hit. And Franzen was trying to get up quickly to rejoin the play. Don't know what either player could have really done differently, considering the speed of the play.

 

[JustAsking]

When I typed 'Sid' or referenced that play in the OP, I knew I wasn't going to get a... ah... healthy converstaion going... my fault... should have known better...

That play triggered a questioned about leaping players and if it's considered breaking some type of code taking their legs out, again, my fault for mentioning the Pens and Sid. No one could get past those words... ah, godlike I know...

 

[KennyBanyeah]

When I typed 'Sid' or referenced that play in the OP, I knew I wasn't going to get a... ah... healthy converstaion going... my fault... should have known better...

That play triggered a questioned about leaping players and if it's considered breaking some type of code taking their legs out, again, my fault for mentioning the Pens and Sid. No one could get past those words... ah, godlike I know...

Not one single media outlet/analyst questioned the play. You then go off about how Richards just lay on the ice because he chose to do it.

Let me make it simple for you so that you can bugger off with this lame ass thread. Franson was lying down. That is his ice. If he chooses to get up it's his decision, just like a player can fall down if he wants (eg. to block a shot). If Crosby tries to jump over a player and contact is made, it's his fault. He thought he was quick enough to make it over; in this case he wasn't. It's buyer beware.

Franson did nothing wrong. Sid knew it. Franson knew it. The players on both teams knew it. The announcers knew it. Everyone watching the game knew it (apparently excluding one).

The responses saying this was a ridiculous thread had nothing to do with Crosby.

YOU MADE THIS ABOUT CROSBY. I suspect that if Crosby wasn't involved you wouldn't have made the thread. The idea that a player has to lie on the ice with his head on a swivel, fearing to get up for fear someone MIGHT jump over him, while the play buzzes around him is asinine. In fact that player has a duty to defend himself. Lying down in the goal mouth is asking for trouble.