Lack of DE hurts

[CrashDavisSports]

Robert Geathers - I will be honest I am not high on Geathers and would not mind seeing his mega buck contract for his injury riddled career and lack of production the last three years be cut.

Jamaal Anderson - He is a go between DE/DT, not a pure guy that is a journeyman at this point.

Derrick Harvey - He is a 1st round bust that never did anything worth while, hopefully he can revive his career, but it is a long shot. Might be a victim of a numbers game anyways.

Michael Johnson - A good young player that gives 100%, but he gets swallowed by decent RT's and disappears in some games. Consistancy is a big issue for him.

Carlos Dunlap - By far our best DE, but he also disappears in games whether it is lack of motor, conditioning or his nagging injuries, he just is not seen at times in games.

Our DT position is by far our deepest, best position on the team.

We just drafted a couple more guys, and there is goign to be hard pressed times to get them all into t he rotation on a consistant basis to make them all happy. Also, some of these guys are pretty big.

Question 1: Should we consider implementing more DT's on the outside at DE in running/rushing situations and go with a more heavy defensive front in 4-3, or should we really consentrate on LB next year and try to move to a more 3-4 type defense with a good rotation on the line with 1 DE being used (Dunlap/Johnson/Anderson) along with two DT's for bulk (while rotating them)?

Right now, we do not have the LB core to pull this off, but should this be a priority next year come FA and draft time?

Question 2: Or should we go after a guy like Osi, cut Geathers to retain half the money needed to sign him. Geathers signed a 36-40+ million dollar contract for like 6 years or something like that..he is getting to the end of it...saving 6 mill on Geathers could afford us a great opportunity to sign a guy like Osi who is a solid proven DE who can make our DL that much better if we stay in a 4-3 front.


We are also getting very close to next year where we are going to be forced to be at 99% spending cap, and a decent contract to strengthen our line even more could go a long ways to getting there without reworking everyones contract to give them more money early: Green, Dalton, Atkins, etc.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Bengals had a shot to get Osi, per rumors...they said no. They don't want to pay him. For whatever it's worth (right or wrong) it's not even worth speculating about.

Who is on this team is who will be there on opening day...so, either some of these guys better start stepping up and producing, or the secondary is going to have to get a whole lot better faster to keep up with the amount of time QB's are going to have to throw against them.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Bengals had a shot to get Osi, per rumors...they said no. They don't want to pay him. For whatever it's worth (right or wrong) it's not even worth speculating about.

Who is on this team is who will be there on opening day...so, either some of these guys better start stepping up and producing, or the secondary is going to have to get a whole lot better faster to keep up with the amount of time QB's are going to have to throw against them.

Do you honestly think the Giants would trade Osi for Rivers? I mean who in their right f'n minds would believe that. Osi will costs some bucks for sure..

6 years 60+ million with 24+ million guaranteed.

I can understand Mike Brown does not want to spend that when DL is one of our strengths, but DE is really lacking. If not for our DT, that DE position would look much worse, and we did not address it in the draft at all.

I know this is the Bengals, but this is a message board. I thought we were to discuss our thoughts on the team and the merits of our thought process and why others HERE should agree with us. Those that do not, give their points on why they disagree which leads to discussion. Who cares what the Bengals should do, this is our board and we should be discussing what we would like to see done whether it has a chance of happening in reality or not.

 

[flamingrey]

Geathers sucks. Osi should be (or should have been) an obvious target. Peko will take snaps at DE.

Barring injuries, the depth isn't bad with Dunlap, Johnson, and Geathers along with a rotation of Peko, Harvey, and Anderson.

It definitely won't be any worse than last year, so we'll be fine.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Geathers sucks. Osi should be (or should have been) an obvious target. Peko will take snaps at DE.

Barring injuries, the depth isn't bad with Dunlap, Johnson, and Geathers along with a rotation of Peko, Harvey, and Anderson.

It definitely won't be any worse than last year, so we'll be fine.

I agree, regardless of what we do with the backup DE positions and if we maintain the 4-3 look..(which we will), we should be better up front than last year if everyone conitnues to progressing and our depth got better.

 

[cincygrad]

I figure Dunlap will miss at least 3 games with injury and will probably mentally check out of another 3 or 4.

I think we'll get enough out of the rest of the guys and D-line will actually be a major strength of this team.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

I figure Dunlap will miss at least 3 games with injury and will probably mentally check out of another 3 or 4.

I think we'll get enough out of the rest of the guys and D-line will actually be a major strength of this team.

I agree for sure.

Just thinking this is a way to improve even more.

I would personally say if we were to get Osi for say a 3rd or somethign like that, (which I know we won't), we would have argueably the best defensive line in all of football. But, as the world turns. Dreams and wishes keep us all going.

 

[kramer1]

No worries...we have Dontay Moch. He can convert.