Knittingmonkey on Waivers

[Ray_Dogg]

Per McKenzie

 

[Slimpikins]

I guess there is no trade interest for him.

 

[sjrules99]

I guess there is no trade interest for him.

not surprising since he sucks. At least they can bury him if he doesnt get picked up and still get the cap relief.

Not sure why we all wanted a career back up 30 year old as our starting goalie last year. Niemi is waaaay better and griess looks respectable too. Sexsmith, sateri, and stalock should be reasonable as well it would seem.

hopefully he gets picked up.

 

[rares]

Why did Dougie want him?

Probably because Niemi wasn't available/an option when Niitty was signed, IIRC?

Regardless, yeah, he wasn't very good and couldn't stay healthy.

 

[MrChangoT97]

Surprise, SURPRISE!

Maybe Detriot will pick him up.

 

[Cmon_WTF]

Anaheim, Columbus, and Detroit are possible destinations. Calgary may want him so they can put Irving back in the A.

I'd like to think this is a prelude to aquiring a forward but most likely Wilson just needs the roster spot for when Wingels and Clowe come of the IR.

 

[MrChangoT97]

I want a trade! THAT WORKS!

 

[Likewall32]

How does this cap shit actually work? Im confused because on the radio last night they were talking bout chicago making trades and tehy said that since the cap space, along with contracts go on a day to day basis and with the season halfway through said that the Hawks have the room to take on 22 million in new contracts... That made so sence to me, cause I know their payroll is pretty maxed out. if they can take on 22mil for the remainder of the year, how come everyone always posts how SJ cant make certain trads cause they barely have any room??

 

[Cbrower91]

who cares its cap relief nitty gets back in the nhl everyone is happy except for this board lol

 

[MrChangoT97]

Because lucky teams can get away with it. And since the Sharks are the unluckiest team EVER they can't. But honestly I don't trully understand also, but I think it has something to do with when contracts take in full effect.

 

[Likewall32]

Because lucky teams can get away with it. And since the Sharks are the unluckiest team EVER they can't. But honestly I don't trully understand also, but I think it has something to do with when contracts take in full effect.

Its like watching the spanish channel to me, I like to pretend I know what they are saing, but I have no clue. I was just thinking, no way in hell. 2 years ago Chi had to sell off the team just to make opening day cap limit, and start of this season they put themselves back at the top limit with all the signings they did in the offseason, and still have a lot big long contracts. AND Huets contract was suppose to be a hit for them this seasons, cause he wasnt loaned out anymore (donno where the fuck he is tho nowadays). So now, how can a team thats already stacked at forward, and has a great D core, have room to take on 22mil in salary?? Man that would be fucking scarey if they somehow pulled that off...

P.S. my understanding is what they take on, has to be guys that are FA's at the end of the season, or else next season they would be over cap...

 

[MrChangoT97]

Fuck Chicago!

 

[Cmon_WTF]

How does this cap shit actually work? Im confused because on the radio last night they were talking bout chicago making trades and tehy said that since the cap space, along with contracts go on a day to day basis and with the season halfway through said that the Hawks have the room to take on 22 million in new contracts... That made so sence to me, cause I know their payroll is pretty maxed out. if they can take on 22mil for the remainder of the year, how come everyone always posts how SJ cant make certain trads cause they barely have any room??

I'll do my best to explain it.

When they say the Hawks can take on $22m in new contracts they are talking about the players annual cap hit. For example if a player makes $5m annualy and a team aquires that player at the half way point of the season the players cap hit that is applied to his new team is only $2.5m for the remainder of that season.

Cap hits and cap space are accumulated on a daily basis. The cap ceiling is $64.3m and the NHL regular season is 186 days long this year. This means a team can acumulate a maximum of $345,698.92 (64.3m / 186) in cap hits on a daily basis. So as a very basic example: Say a team starts the season with $50.0m in annual cap hits on the roster and keeps that same roster for the entire first half (93 days) of the season.

The team is spending $268,817.20 towards the cap daily. Meaning they are accumulating $76,881.72 in cap space on a daily basis.

Max the team could have spent towards the cap over the first half of the season = $32,150,000

Actual cap hits the team has spent to that point = $25,000,000

Since the season is half over we double the difference between those two numbers giving us $14.3m. At that point players cap hits are reduced by half so we double the number again to $28.6m to get the total annual cap hits a team can take on at that point of the season and still stay under the max cap expenditures for the entire season.

 

[MrChangoT97]

So can we get Doan & Iginla now?

 

[Cmon_WTF]

So can we get Doan & Iginla now?

The Sharks have the cap space available to afford Doan. They'd have to move a little more salary for Iginla. However, they probably don't have the assets to aquire them.

 

[Cbrower91]

The Sharks have the cap space available to afford Doan. They'd have to move a little more salary for Iginla. However, they probably don't have the assets to aquire them.

I'd love to see them land Doan, not likely but it would be great to see. Deal them Petrecki, Sateri, Ferrioooooo and maybe a 2nd rounder

 

[MrChangoT97]

Any guess where Niittymaki will end up?

Ott, Tampa, Clb, Cal, LA

 

[Likewall32]

I'll do my best to explain it.

When they say the Hawks can take on $22m in new contracts they are talking about the players annual cap hit. For example if a player makes $5m annualy and a team aquires that player at the half way point of the season the players cap hit that is applied to his new team is only $2.5m for the remainder of that season.

Cap hits and cap space are accumulated on a daily basis. The cap ceiling is $64.3m and the NHL regular season is 186 days long this year. This means a team can acumulate a maximum of $345,698.92 (64.3m / 186) in cap hits on a daily basis. So as a very basic example: Say a team starts the season with $50.0m in annual cap hits on the roster and keeps that same roster for the entire first half (93 days) of the season.

The team is spending $268,817.20 towards the cap daily. Meaning they are accumulating $76,881.72 in cap space on a daily basis.

Max the team could have spent towards the cap over the first half of the season = $32,150,000

Actual cap hits the team has spent to that point = $25,000,000

Since the season is half over we double the difference between those two numbers giving us $14.3m. At that point players cap hits are reduced by half so we double the number again to $28.6m to get the total annual cap hits a team can take on at that point of the season and still stay under the max cap expenditures for the entire season.

So what to you imagine the sharks have in available space to take on?? If chicago can take on $22 mil, I imagine the sharks can take on more with Havlet being on LTIR and his money not counting...

 

[Cmon_WTF]

So what to you imagine the sharks have in available space to take on?? If chicago can take on $22 mil, I imagine the sharks can take on more with Havlet being on LTIR and his money not counting...

With Niitty off the roster the Sharks have room to take on $3.3m in cap hits right now or $5.9m at the trade deadline.

Players cap hits who are on LTIR still count against the teams cap numbers. LTIR relief only comes into play if the team exceeds the cap ceiling. They are allowed to exceed the cap limit by the amount of cap space used while the player or players were on LTIR. Calculating the room it would provide would use the same formula as calculating cap space.

Max LTIR relief / Days remaining in the season * 186

I haven't seen anything indicating how much LTIR space the Sharks have available. If Havlat is still out at the trade deadline a rough estimate of the teams LTIR would be $2.0m. At the deadline there are 40 days left in the season.

($2.0m /40) *186 = $9.3m in additional space.

I will note that a team must have regular cap space available to aquire new players. So if a team has exceeded the max cap expenditures to that point in the season and are currently using their LTIR space to remain cap compliant they cannot aquire new players without first moving enough salary to get them back under the regular cap limits.

 

[Ray_Dogg]

He cleared waivers per McKenzie.