Junior Gallette wants to come back on a one-year prove-it deal for $7M to $9M.

[Darrell Green Fan]

I was afraid of this and was worried all along that signing Gallette was not the foregone conclusion most in the media made it seem to be. But we saw in the Super Bowl just how important speed edge rushers are and neither Smith or Murpohy has it, this guy does. Just like the Cousins deal I won't flip out at early negotiation tactics. Don't forget he's got a Redskins tattoo.

 

[skinsdad62]

I was afraid of this and was worried all along that signing Gallette was not the foregone conclusion most in the media made it seem to be. But we saw in the Super Bowl just how important speed edge rushers are and neither Smith or Murpohy has it, this guy does. Just like the Cousins deal I won't flip out at early negotiation tactics. Don't forget he's got a Redskins tattoo.

he has a saints one too

look if he walks he walks , you only take OLB if spence is there if not draft your d/line and center and roll with smith and murphy for another year

 

[gkekoa]

I dont want to give up on either player. I just want what gives the team the best possible roster on the field and the best flexibility going into the draft. We been through this before. Its the reason WHY we drafted smith in the first place. Because we DIDNT have a possible complete OLB to play across from Kerrigan. And it was mostly because we were so damned scared we might over pay Rak. Well the reality is, if we can get Gallette at $3 million base, with incentives... we WONT be forced into drafting another OLB when the strength of this draft is actually in the D-line. I never said give him $7 million up front. But for $3 million plus incentives, we are a fuck-ton better off then relying on Murphy who got benched, or Smith who can rush the passer but is rather questionable when it comes to being a complete OLB in a 4-3. We have two depth OLBs and a starter... we actually NEED another starter. And if Gallette can stay healthy, he is damn sure a starter.

We drafted Smith because he was BPA. Who was better on our board? We didn't want to give RAK what he wasn't worth. We didn't and were better for it.

We let RAK walk and will do the same with Galette if he wants 7 mil.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

I agree we let him walk at that price. But you folks are discounting just what a loss this would be. Again see the Super Bowl, Smith and Murphy simply do not have the edge speed and Gallette does.

 

[gkekoa]

I agree we let him walk at that price. But you folks are discounting just what a loss this would be. Again see the Super Bowl, Smith and Murphy simply do not have the edge speed and Gallette does.

How can anybody say Ps doesn't have the rush ability that Galette has? He had 8 sacks and another in the playoffs while being a part time playing rookie. JG didn't do that until year 4 or 5. JG will never get ten sacks again...neither will RAK...that is my guess. PS will next season.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

How can anybody say Ps doesn't have the rush ability that Galette has? He had 8 sacks and another in the playoffs while being a part time playing rookie. JG didn't do that until year 4 or 5. JG will never get ten sacks again...neither will RAK...that is my guess. PS will next season.

You make a fair point. The word you missed is speed. My movie has 2 speed edge rushers, as Denver had, with great pressure from other spots. I can see Smith filling the role of DE on passing down.

 

[gkekoa]

You make a fair point. The word you missed is speed. My movie has 2 speed edge rushers, as Denver had, with great pressure from other spots. I can see Smith filling the role of DE on passing down.

He had 8 sacks playing OLB. You call it what you want but he gets home.

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

Oh I totally get that, not complaining one bit about the year and I loved the pick on draft day. But to me Gallette and Smith together would be better than Smith and some other player. I happen to think that could work with Smith sliding inside but what do I know, the coaches may feel differently and they know more than I do.

 

[gkekoa]

Oh I totally get that, not complaining one bit about the year and I loved the pick on draft day. But to me Gallette and Smith together would be better than Smith and some other player. I happen to think that could work with Smith sliding inside but what do I know, the coaches may feel differently and they know more than I do.

I would love to think that could work but the truth is very few players can play inside and out. Very few.

 

[skinsdad62]

gallette will have speed questions . some never get that back after an Achilles injury so that needs to be kept in mind .

if we can get pass rush from the d/line (draft ) then perhaps we can work with smith and murphy for another season

you cant fix every hole in one off season

 

[Breed]

You make a fair point. The word you missed is speed. My movie has 2 speed edge rushers, as Denver had, with great pressure from other spots. I can see Smith filling the role of DE on passing down.

2 questions

How do you know Galette is a speed rusher?

You're sounding a little prisoner of the moment. All the praise for Miller and his pass rushing abilities. I thought the only way to Super Bowl glory was a franchise type, super-stud QB? What happened?
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Far as Galette goes. I don't blame him for asking for big money. That's how negotiations are supposed to go. Someone starts high, someone else starts low and they work their way from there. In the past though had Galette asked for 7 to 9 million, The Skins would've given him 12 million with 7 guaranteed. Scotty Mac is here now though boys and this, negotiations, weighing risk/reward being prudent, is what he does. I think they Scotty Mac/Junior get something worked out that everyone can live with. The real test will be next year if Galette blows up like so many seem to think he's capable of.

 

[redskinsfan]

I don't think Gallette is asking for $7M to $9M, that's where he wants to end up. If that's true, I can only imagine what he'd start the bidding at.

 

[chillerdab]

I don't remember Preston Smith not being able to cover. I think Sharkinva just made that up.

 

[skinz2winz]

I agree we let him walk at that price. But you folks are discounting just what a loss this would be. Again see the Super Bowl, Smith and Murphy simply do not have the edge speed and Gallette does.

And neither does Kerrigan for that matter. No OLB on our roster has the athletic ability of Von Miller or DeMarcus Ware at his age, none!! Not that I want to resign Gallette but do we have much choice? We have a ton of other needs on defense like, finding 2 starting caliber inside linebackers, a young DL and 2 secondary players like a corner and a safety. I'm holding out hope that K. Jarrett may evolve into something but D. Hall is old, Golsten is not very good and Culliver may never be the same again. We are hurting across the board on defense.

 

[Sharkinva]

I don't remember Preston Smith not being able to cover. I think Sharkinva just made that up.

Dude... he was a Defensive END in college who got converted to OLB in the pros. As a defensive end his specialty was rushing the passer... PERIOD. Now exactly what fuckin part of that as a rookie says he has the ability to cover TE's or RBs coming out of the backfield??

His draft profile...

2015 NFL Draft Profile: Preston Smith

To be fair, the only reason Murphy has any coverage skills to this point is because HE ended up starting a good portion of his rookie year and the defense we ran forced him to learn to cover. But as we had Murphy, Smith could concentrate on rushing the passer when he was in there.

As stated, we have two guys to play one position right now. Any QB worth half his salt would audible to a hot route the moment he saw Smith on the field. Because sure as water is wet, he is coming on the rush with zero concern for coverage.

 

[gkekoa]

Do you really believe 3-4 OLBs drop into coverage often?

 

[Sharkinva]

I believe that a COMPLETE 3-4 OLB is capable of it. I know we have seen Kerrigan do it quite a few times. And more to the point, what i have been saying is that if we are predictable based on personnel on the field, well thats a problem dont you think?? A two down OLB is a weakness at best, a liability at worst.

 

[chillerdab]

So in other words, you are using his draft profile as proof that he covered badly after that profile was written?

Makes perfect sense.

 

[Sharkinva]

So in other words, you are using his draft profile as proof that he covered badly after that profile was written?

Makes perfect sense.

IM using the fact that he has never played in coverage a day in his life in college OR in the pro's as a strong indicator that he likely has no learned any coverage skills yet. IM also basing it on the fact that Murphy still got snaps when it wasnt an obvious passing down and the OLB had to honor both the pass into the flat as well as outside runs. The majority of Smiths snaps until very late in the season where on obvious passing down with long down and distance where we were not as concerned with the outside run or the pass into the flat.

And lastly Im basing it off the fact that we have openly had the team say they want to bring Gallette back. NO need for that if Smith is the all around OLB that some think he is. Why attempt to bring in a starter if you already have one. Or do you seriously think they would try to bring in Gallette as a backup, or that he would sign to be a backup??

 

[Breed]

As stated, we have two guys to play one position right now. Any QB worth half his salt would audible to a hot route the moment he saw Smith on the field. Because sure as water is wet, he is coming on the rush with zero concern for coverage.

And yet in the age of specialization, where numerous football teams sub out a player or multiple players on a habitual basis. Why doesn't every team use your proposed solution for easy success?