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Josh Norman a one-year wonder? Not so fast!

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It seems, everywhere I've seen a post or heard a comment about Josh Norman being a one-year wonder. That's very far from the truth. Sure! Last year was his first year, as an elite player, who happened to be playing for a much-publicized and well-known, 15-2 Panthers team. What many do not realize is that he rebounded in 2014 from a 2013 season, where he lost his job to Captain Munnerlyn and a 2012 rookie season in which he was benched in the middle of the game vs. the Falcons, later in the season, which I saw, btw. Let's look at 2014, when he had a pretty good year, but all of this was unnoticed because he played for a bad, division-winning 7-8-1 Panthers team. Nobody was studying the Panthers, so why study Josh Norman? I was hearing his name, every now and again because I live in the NFC South region, but still. That whole division was horrible.

In 2014, when he regained his position as a full-time starter in Week 8, he held many of the #1 WRs in check, during that span, including Julio Jones. In two match-ups, against Jones, Norman gave up 10 catches for 117 yards. I saw both games. Overall, he ranked in elite status, while being targeted by teams #1 WRs that year. In fact, he gave up only 13 catches, while being targeted. Overall, in 2013, he allowed 27 catches for 291 yards and was targeted 58 times, along with a 46.6% catch rating, which was 2nd in the NFL.

Of course, there is his elite 2015 campaign. Outside of Redskins games, of course, I saw many Panthers games. The only WR he got owned by was the infamous, Julio Jones, leading to their first loss of the season in Atlanta. He gave up seven catches for 91 yards. One was a drop that could've been for a long TD. In their first match-up in Carolina, Jones only caught four passes for 33 yards, against Norman. So, in their last four match-ups, that's 17 catches for 233 yards, 12.3 ypc. for 0 TDs. Not bad, against a WR, who many consider to be the best in the NFL. In fact, last year, he held Dez Bryant, DeAndre Hopkins, TY Hilton in check.

Some diss him because he's a zone corner. Well, no matter what, CBs are mostly on an island. Safeties and LBs are not always there to help them, as I saw with him. There have been many plays, where he made things happen on his own with his instincts via sniffing out screens and stopping WRs for losses. Not to mention, he's very good with his eyes, which can sometimes get him in trouble, but good CBs, sometimes take chances. It's a chess match. Some say, he was successful because of the Panther's pass-rush. That may be true. However, I believe good CBs can help pass-rushers. Just imagine how many additional coverage sacks Ryan Kerrigan, Junior Galette and Preston Smith might get because of Josh Norman and Bashaud Breeland's coverage. Something to think about.

I'm not politicking for Josh Norman because he is now a Redskin. I can only go by what I have seen. The bottom line is, Josh Norman has become a Pro-Bowl CB, who seems to have gotten better, since reclaimed his position, as a starter in 2014. He's has good size, awareness, decent speed, is a sound tackler, forces fumbles, has great leaping ability, great hands and he can be intimidating with his subtle trash-talk. I like his game, just as much as the other elite CBs in this league. The only thing I do not like is his age, as he'll be 29 in December, but this will only be his 5th year. I can't judge the money because I haven't seen the breakdown of the numbers. Let's just be optimistic that we have a Pro-Bowl CB, who will pair with a potentially soon-to-be Pro Bowl CB in Bashaud Breeland, which will make our team better. We'll need all of the help we can get because we got (in schedule order) Antonio Brown, Dez Bryant, Odell Beckham, Steve Smith, Golden Tate, A.J. Green, Jordy Nelson, Dez Bryant, Larry Fitzgerald, Kelvin Benjamin, Alshon Jeffery and ends with Odell Beckham.
 

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I love the signing.
 

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First off...I love the signing as well! All the things you have said are valid and as a long time skins fan, I am always weary of past free agent mistakes who received big contracts (fat Albert, etc..). That being said, simce Scott MCcloughan has been running things, we have been going in the right direction. We have been getting role players in free agency, drafting well, and cultivating our own! These are the things great franchises do!

I will say that when an "unexpected" premium talent hits the market and may fill a need, we should take a look. This Happened with DJax and now Norman. I still have to wait for the entire contract structure before making a judgemen and am hearing different stories such as 51 million guaranteed and its 2 yrs 36 million but after 2 years we can get out. Either way, we as fans have to realize that we don't know the big picture and have trust in our front office, who in my opinion has been doing a heck of a job.

Two other reasons why this signing is fantastic. 1. Norman fits our scheme. We run a lot of zone coverage and that is what he excels at. 2 and most importantly, this move gives us much more flexibility in the draft. We can now feel more comfortable trading back (if needed), we can build our DL (which is the heart of the defense), and focus on other positions such as Center and WR that may have been pushed lower on the priority list due to need of talent at CB. Now we can focus on these other positions and build.

Let me know if us guys agree!
 

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First off...I love the signing as well! All the things you have said are valid and as a long time skins fan, I am always weary of past free agent mistakes who received big contracts (fat Albert, etc..). That being said, simce Scott MCcloughan has been running things, we have been going in the right direction. We have been getting role players in free agency, drafting well, and cultivating our own! These are the things great franchises do!

I will say that when an "unexpected" premium talent hits the market and may fill a need, we should take a look. This Happened with DJax and now Norman. I still have to wait for the entire contract structure before making a judgemen and am hearing different stories such as 51 million guaranteed and its 2 yrs 36 million but after 2 years we can get out. Either way, we as fans have to realize that we don't know the big picture and have trust in our front office, who in my opinion has been doing a heck of a job.

Two other reasons why this signing is fantastic. 1. Norman fits our scheme. We run a lot of zone coverage and that is what he excels at. 2 and most importantly, this move gives us much more flexibility in the draft. We can now feel more comfortable trading back (if needed), we can build our DL (which is the heart of the defense), and focus on other positions such as Center and WR that may have been pushed lower on the priority list due to need of talent at CB. Now we can focus on these other positions and build.

Let me know if us guys agree!

I totally agree! I have a co-worker, who's also a Panthers fan and Clemson native, said he believed the Skins were interested in Norman because of draft purposes, as you mentioned. This was prior to his signing. It is funny how this is reminiscent of how D-Jax suddenly became available. Some said he wouldn't fit, as a Skin. Hmmmm!

Speaking of the zone scheme, I forgot to mention that we do run a lot of that. Herm Edwards was saying on Thursday that Norman would be a good fit because of the scheme we run.

Without Norman, we'd have only have Toler, as the newest addition to go along with the CBs we had, last year. Breeland was obviously the best of the group. No one knows how Culliver respond to that torn ACL. Not to mention, he didn't play, much, prior to. Then, getting a rookie CB is a wild-card and with Norman it makes suddenly not needing one, great.

I still believe Scot's gonna stick to the script and get those 12 picks he wants in the draft and go from there. I truly believe we will not be picking at #21. I wouldn't be surprised, if the Broncos trade up with us to get Paxton Lynch. We'll see! Meanwhile, I'm happy with the signing. I'll be seeing him, when the Redskins come down to Atlanta to play the Falcons on 8/11.
 

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I hope and pray Cleveland is our trade partner. I would love to trade back to the second round, pick up a fourth, and their one for next season...dream scenario for me.
 

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I hope and pray Cleveland is our trade partner. I would love to trade back to the second round, pick up a fourth, and their one for next season...dream scenario for me.

You really think the Browns would trade up after trading down with the Eagles?
 

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I would feel better if the one year of great play also didn't occur in his contract year. I trust Scot M. but that's a lot of money for once again 1 year. Hoping he can prove me wrong and dominate the stud receivers in our division.
 

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Seems we have some mixed signals being sent out far as Norman and his skill-set. The writer of this article seems to think that Josh Norman is at his best when playing a mixture of man and a very aggressive trap zone Carolina Panthers All-22 Film Analysis: Josh Norman in "Trap Coverage". Norman's stats/production were certainly glossy during the first month of the 2015 season. The writer did note that other Panther players were playing their assignmentsa quite well also.

I did enjoy this article. If accurate things certainly didn't come easy for him and he's not a stranger to struggle or hard work. Who is Josh Norman? Panthers corner took winding road to the NFL

Whereas the writer of this article seems to believe Norman was more fortunate as opposed to being good and he benefited tremendously from an all around damn good defense. Why it made sense for the Panthers to part ways with Josh Norman A couple WRs including Roddy White weigh in on Norman's play and it appears the personal philosophy of the Panthers GM far as how to build a defense. Didn't do Norman any favors.

One of the positive themes that seems to pop up when talking about Norman is his play making ability. He did make some nice, athletic INTs last year. It'd be great if his play making abilities were to come into full fruition. Right as his Redskin career kicks off.

I do believe JN makes the Skins a better team and if he was overpaid...slightly or eve more than slightly I'm OK with that as well. Given my druthers though, I'd prefer a CB adapt at man as opposed to zone. So here's to hoping of all the links I posted here. Here's to hoping the first link is the most accurate on Norman's ability and skill-set.
 

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Bottom line...Just like with any big time CB, If your D-line/front seven plays well and puts pressure on opposing QB's, this signing will work out great. If your D-line gives QB's too much time, it doesn't matter who you have back there with the rules these days...
 

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if norman went to dallas or giants all the expert be like norman is the best cb ever to play the game
 
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