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the hole point is SNYDER SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN PICKING ANYONE . i dont care about his talent . its obvious the whole picture was not taken into account ., his HC and the scouts said dont do it . he ignored him , its his fault . why he did it , how the pick is justified is of no consequence . its pretty easy to understand

Fine, but you have to realize his HC was biased b/c he needed to win right away or he will be fired. Synder probably knew he was going to fire Gruden so he went against him and picked his QB anyways. Their are posters on here saying the talent wasnt there and that is false.
 

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i dont like the sourcing but even brucifer didnt want him . and he has sucked more snyder dick then tanya

No shit he was a project. Most QB;s are in the draft. So you are saying all college Qb;s who are one year wonders shouldn't get drafted first round b/c they are a project? Allen was linked to Gruden so that made sense.
 

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Again, for like the 100th time, the very fact that Gruden didnt want him and was on the hot seat should have caused Snyder to pause.

Kinda like how the fact that multiple posters on this thread are disagreeing with your ridiculous postings ought to give you pause...

Analogies are fun in that way

edit: I have no idea why a sleeping unicorn is attached to this message, but I kinda like it...


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All one year wonders are projects but the guy showed ability b/c of his numbers Ohio St. Posters on here are dismissing that he wasnt a 1st round QB is crazy. Plus he never did anything off the field at Ohio St to warrant that he was going to be a headcase in the pros. Plus he beat out Joe Burrow at Ohio St. So your telling me the guy didnt have talent?

As my post that you just quoted said he had 1st rd talent. Read the words I'm about to write. No! I am not telling you he didn't have talent! You don't know what he got into off the field when he was at OSU. Maybe he did n it was covered up. Maybe he was a choirboy. What he did off the field as a member of the Skins wasn't really head case worthy imo. It was a lack of maturity, not putting the proper work in issue. Pretty normal stuff really for a 23 year old who inked a multi million dollar contract a year ago really. Unless that 23 year old wanted to show the NFL they made a mistake by not picking him sooner in the draft. If a 23 year old wanted to do that. He'd have to put in extra work and not simply working out. He'd have to hit the playbook, film study, maybe seek some advice from others who played before him, get with the wide outs n TE on the team, get to know them. It was these things that were lacking, that made him a project, made him raw not the glossy numbers he put up his Sr year. The numbers were cool n they had their place, but everyone has\had numbers. Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Andre Ware, Todd Marinovich, Matt Lienart, hell the NFL boneyard is littered with guys who had college numbers.

I can imagine Snyder thinking just like you are now. He has the numbers, the numbers. 50 TDs, a rocket launcher arm. He's a local boy n he has the numbers! I want him. That was probably Snyder. Everyone else was thing about how raw he was. Him being a project. Just like Snyder probably did back then. You're far too focused on the wrong shit and that's how you end up outright releasing a supposed 1st rd draft pick less than 2 seasons after drafting him.
 

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This thread is funny when you think Dean arguably was the biggest Haskins detractor/hater from week 2 till he was benched after week 4. And was probably the happiest poster n biggest Kyle Allen fan on the board afterward. Yet here Dean is with rockhead hardheadedness defending Daniel Snyder and the draft pk he wasted picking Haskins in the 19 draft.
 

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No shit he was a project. Most QB;s are in the draft. So you are saying all college Qb;s who are one year wonders shouldn't get drafted first round b/c they are a project? Allen was linked to Gruden so that made sense.
you dont draft projects in the 1st round dean , maybe your low standards you do but not me . you need 1st rounders to play and contribute on a losing team , perhaps perennial playoff teams can do that but not 3 win disasters
 

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This thread is funny when you think Dean arguably was the biggest Haskins detractor/hater from week 2 till he was benched after week 4. And was probably the happiest poster n biggest Kyle Allen fan on the board afterward. Yet here Dean is with rockhead hardheadedness defending Daniel Snyder and the draft pk he wasted picking Haskins in the 19 draft.
and you want to add more irony , i was DHC's biggest defender , go figure
 

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This thread is funny when you think Dean arguably was the biggest Haskins detractor/hater from week 2 till he was benched after week 4. And was probably the happiest poster n biggest Kyle Allen fan on the board afterward. Yet here Dean is with rockhead hardheadedness defending Daniel Snyder and the draft pk he wasted picking Haskins in the 19 draft.

i dont like haskins at all. No defending the guy but I can see why Synder picked him at 15. that is all im saying. im not playing monday morning QB
 

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you dont draft projects in the 1st round dean , maybe your low standards you do but not me . you need 1st rounders to play and contribute on a losing team , perhaps perennial playoff teams can do that but not 3 win disasters

What!! One year wonders projects are drafted in the first round all the time. When its a QB teams go nuts if they atheltic ability.
 

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i dont like haskins at all. No defending the guy but I can see why Synder picked him at 15. that is all im saying. im not playing monday morning QB
i can see why he picked him , that isnt the point , the point is HE shouldnt pick anyone against his football men's opinions and hence its his fault
 

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What!! One year wonders projects are drafted in the first round all the time. When its a QB teams go nuts if they atheltic ability.
and that has what to do with my quote ?
 

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you said one year wonders dont get drafted in the 1st round
no i didnt , i said you need first rounders to play right away and cant wait on them as projects and hence shouldnt be drafted in round 1 early to mid round
 

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no i didnt , i said you need first rounders to play right away and cant wait on them as projects and hence shouldnt be drafted in round 1 early to mid round

this was your quote "you dont draft projects in the 1st round dean " False!!
 

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Negative No. 5

The fifth negative for Sunday’s game is not a coach. It is not a player. It is not a referee – even after a few controversies in Sunday’s game. It is not a fan. Or a stadium employee or any workers at the Washington Football Team home in Ashburn. The fifth negative for Sunday is the owner, Dan Snyder.

The entire front office and coaching staff before the 2019 draft didn’t want to pick Dwayne Haskins. Their choice at pick No. 15 was Montez Sweat. Just think, if the immature, meddlesome owner had allowed the front office to do their jobs. Sweat would be the choice, and Washington would still have their second-round draft choices in 2019 and 2020. There would be no dealing with Haskins. That is too costly.

Yes, Snyder has plenty of negatives on his plate with the minority business partners and the ongoing NFL investigation. His antics before the 2019 draft have affected the team all the way to the present. It became another negative for him on Sunday.
 

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and you want to add more irony , i was DHC's biggest defender , go figure
Don't fault yourself for liking him and rooting for the team. All you wanted was the best for the team an its fans. Nothing wrong with that.
 

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I would be extremely cautious in calling Haskins a "bust" at this point. He's 23 years old and while it didn't work out for him here, there's a real possibility that he will sign elsewhere and "become a better man and NFL QB" simply because the new organization isn't Washington. Looking back, there was almost unanimous agreement that he was a project ( one year in school and immaturity issues). One poster always insist that young QB'S should sit, and Dwayne was no different despite the insistence of some here who wrongly maintain that rookie contracts are an impediment. It's economically untrue when such a player hasn't earned a big contract. He would get the veterans minimum on a renewal. It doesn't happen because, few teams exercise patience in this regard.

I understand why Dwayne was cut, he earned it simply because he wasn't ready to play NFL level football. Does that mean he's an eternal bust? Absolutely not!! There are teams that are interested in signing him cheaply in the coming months. There are two that I know of as I write this, Pittsburgh..and ..(don't pee on yourself) Carolina. It's going to be interesting to see how his career develops in his quest to prove himself elsewhere.

Let me state clearly that Dwayne Haskins was a "bust" here, but being a bust in a busted organization doesn't really come as a surprise to me. If in future terms, this organization goes on towards much better things with respect to playoffs or SB appearances/wins with the QB of their choosing and Dwayne completely flames out, then yeah, we can look back and debate right/wrong track in terms of sitting/not sitting him. However, should his new team put in the necessary work in him and he goes on to a long NFL career as starter or high level backup, while Washington remains.. well.. Washington, we should all revisit this thread and pass out hankies while we cry in our soup. Keep in mind, there's literally millions of dollars to be made being a backup QB in the NFL. Hell, Jason Campbell, another notable "bust" here made millions more after his time here in a career spanning 10 years. Most notably, Kirk Cousins, the Nick Foles in Minnesota, who's now proven himself to be one of those "high level" backups that I spoke of, fell into a situation that's still paying him millions because of desperation for starters. (I wrote this last part for a friend)
 

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this was your quote "you dont draft projects in the 1st round dean " False!!
Drafting projects and “one year wonders “ are 2 completely different things dean FALSE
 
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