I'm happy with Lewis over Coughlin

[mrschaney]

Coughlin is definitly a great coach, however had he been the Bengals head coach, I'm not so sure he would have done any better than Lewis.
Coughlin is 4-4 against AFC north teams, hardly enough games to make a definate judgement, but 1 win was against the Browns and the other an overtime win against us in 2008. He could have easily been 2-6 against the AFC North.
Lewis has become the Bengals all-time winning coach in the same time period.
Given the talent Lewis has had, could Coughlin have accomplished more as a Bengals head coach when he could only muster 4-4 against the AFC north with the abundant talent he has had in NY?
Just a thought, and not in any way knocking Coughlin, who has obviously accomplished more than Marvin Lewis overall. BUT, with all the talk of "we should have got Coughlin" I just don't know if he would have gotten any farther than Marvin Lewis has in Cincy.
Another factor is we would have different players had Coughlin been our head coach, so there is no way to know what Coughlin could have accomplished in Cincy, which is basically my whole point.
There is no way to know what the outcome would have been, so people shouldn't bash us for not signing Coughlin. All we have to go by is his 4-4 record against the AFC North.

 

[ckhokie]

All we have to go by is his 4-4 record against the AFC North.

Uhhh wut? All we have to go by is that he is 4-4 with a totally different team? Coughlin is a much better coach than marvin. There is no comparison. 'Record vs. AFC North' should have zero to do with this discussion.

 

[mrschaney]

Yes, but 4-4 against the AFC with a different team, but his Giants teams i would say were MUCH better than our Bengals teams. He should have been 8-0 against the AFC North with all that talent.

 

[ckhokie]

Yes, but 4-4 against the AFC with a different team, but his Giants teams i would say were MUCH better than our Bengals teams. He should have been 8-0 against the AFC North with all that talent.

If you are serious about this logic, and not just trolling, he is also 2-0 in Super Bowls. Marvin has been here what, 7 years? and is 0-2 in the playoffs.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

If you are serious about this logic, and not just trolling, he is also 2-0 in Super Bowls. Marvin has been here what, 7 years? and is 0-2 in the playoffs.

0-3 actually, and while I do not completely agree with her logic, she has a point. Granted, I am hoping Marvin is not the coach for the next decade either, as I think his game calling is suspect and his time management is maybe the worst in the league.

 

[cincygrad]

It's amazing that June can still get a rise out of people.

 

[mrschaney]

This post is for people that say we should have gotten Coughlin. Basically, I'm just saying that you can't say Coughlin would have won a Super Bowl here. I'm just saying that with all his talent that he has in NY, he was only 4-4 against the AFC north. Could he have beaten the Steelers and Ravens on a consistant basis? IF not, he wouldn't have fared in any better than who we have now.

 

[ckhokie]

This post is for people that say we should have gotten Coughlin. Basically, I'm just saying that you can't say Coughlin would have won a Super Bowl here. I'm just saying that with all his talent that he has in NY, he was only 4-4 against the AFC north. Could he have beaten the Steelers and Ravens on a consistant basis? IF not, he wouldn't have fared in any better than who we have now.

As discussed in the other thread, it's not like he has superior talent. They're running game has been on-par or worse than the Bengals the last couple years and they were 9-7 this year <--not exactly elite

The talent argument is bogus, along with this pseudo transitive property comparison of coaches.

Have you watched marvin the last 3 years? It could be argued that he is one of the worst 4-5 head coaches in the league. Our coordinators just happen to be ok now that Brat is gone

 

[flamingrey]

As discussed in the other thread, it's not like he has superior talent. They're running game has been on-par or worse than the Bengals the last couple years and they were 9-7 this year <--not exactly elite

The talent argument is bogus, along with this pseudo transitive property comparison of coaches.

Have you watched marvin the last 3 years? It could be argued that he is one of the worst 4-5 head coaches in the league. Our coordinators just happen to be ok now that Brat is gone

That made me chuckle.

 

[mrschaney]

I don't see how you can say he is one of the worst 4-5 coaches?
Look what we accomplished last season with a rookie qb, rookie wr, and second year tight end. I think he should be in line for coach of the year after accomplishing what he did with such a young team. This team will go far if we can get a running game in place.

 

[DanBengalfan]

All you have to do to make a coach or player a failure is put him in stripes.

"Hello, welcome to the Bengals, we don't really care if you win here, but we do have to make money."