If Mariota falls to 10 the Rams have struck Gold

[27mtrcougar]

ill give you 7 teams that Bradford would be the hands down favorite to get the starting job going into the season not including the Brown and Eagles...

So how can you guys say other teams wouldn't want him??
1. NYJ
2. Buffalo
3. Wash
4. Tampa
5. Miami
6. Houston
7. Tenn

8. Chicago (probable would start)

It's not about my "love" it's about the fact you guys are in a crazy denial that these teams wouldn't want him.
Oh and next year when Manning retires you can put Denver at the top of the list.

 

[27mtrcougar]

I believe any of those teams would gladly give up the 19th pick in the draft besides maybe Miami because Ryan Tannehill is ok and they wouldn't necessarily have to do it. Again I'm not saying I would do it but I think NFL teams value him way more then the avg Ram fans.

 

[shopson67]

ill give you 7 teams that Bradford would be the hands down favorite to get the starting job going into the season not including the Brown and Eagles...

So how can you guys say other teams wouldn't want him??
1. NYJ
2. Buffalo
3. Wash
4. Tampa
5. Miami
6. Houston
7. Tenn

8. Chicago (probable would start)

It's not about my "love" it's about the fact you guys are in a crazy denial that these teams wouldn't want him.
Oh and next year when Manning retires you can put Denver at the top of the list.

Now list how many of those teams would be willing to pay him $13M to see if he can even stay healthy for 16 games. By the way, he's not starting over Tannehill or Cutler for certain. Tampa will have Jameis soon enough. Jets may have the option of taking Mariota, if Tenn doesn't want him (or trade down with someone who does). Bills and Dolphins are also capped-out. Washington has too much invested in RG3 and Cousins, no need to take on an oft-injured QB. So, we're down to Houston.

If Bradford were released, it might be different. He hasn't been.

 

[27mtrcougar]

Now list how many of those teams would be willing to pay him $13M to see if he can even stay healthy for 16 games. By the way, he's not starting over Tannehill or Cutler for certain. Tampa will have Jameis soon enough. Jets may have the option of taking Mariota, if Tenn doesn't want him (or trade down with someone who does). Bills and Dolphins are also capped-out. Washington has too much invested in RG3 and Cousins, no need to take on an oft-injured QB. So, we're down to Houston.

If Bradford were released, it might be different. He hasn't been.

Oh I see its a money issue for you. Well the Eagles and Browns proved NFL teams don't care about that for a QB. And are willing to take a chance with his Knee. You do realize Bradford is mid pack when it comes for highest payed QB's? 13m is not much for a starting QB.

 

[LongtimeRamsFan42]

Oh I see its a money issue for you. Well the Eagles and Browns proved NFL teams don't care about that for a QB. And are willing to take a chance with his Knee. You do realize Bradford is mid pack when it comes for highest payed QB's? 13m is not much for a starting QB.

So because two teams were willing to take a shot, it now means all NFL teams don't care about his price tag? Sorry but no. In the age of the salary cap, 13 mil for an unproven QB who is coming off two major injuries to the same knee back to back is a hell of a lot to pay. Just because one or two teams were willing to take a HUGE risk with a trade offer, doesn't mean there is any other team feeling the same way.
Let's put it this way. If the Eagles and Browns favored Pistachio ice cream, does that mean every team does?

 

[bluepigpen]

The Eagles team thread would love a Bradford supporter right now, the only supporter that Sam has been seen with the Rams has a brace tied to it. I am glad Sammy is gone, don't have ill will but it was way past time he left us. Try the Eagles thread Cougar for the spin, we here have already lived the for too much time.

 

[27mtrcougar]

So because two teams were willing to take a shot, it now means all NFL teams don't care about his price tag? Sorry but no. In the age of the salary cap, 13 mil for an unproven QB who is coming off two major injuries to the same knee back to back is a hell of a lot to pay. Just because one or two teams were willing to take a HUGE risk with a trade offer, doesn't mean there is any other team feeling the same way.
Let's put it this way. If the Eagles and Browns favored Pistachio ice cream, does that mean every team does?

And that's what you guys can't grasp. Bradford HAS proved he can play in the NFL. That's what GM's see. When on the field he can make any throw if given time with velocity and accuracy that is well above avg. yes I do think teams that need a QB will roll the dice on him even with his injury concerns because of his upside. MM and JW are the unknowns when it comes to GM's. They are a risk right now that they could be Ryan leaf or manziel... You never know when drafting. Again 13m for a QB is avg pay right now in the leauge. So GM's again will say his upside is worth the risk imo.

 

[LongtimeRamsFan42]

And that's what you guys can't grasp. Bradford HAS proved he can play in the NFL. That's what GM's see. When on the field he can make any throw if given time with velocity and accuracy that is well above avg. yes I do think teams that need a QB will roll the dice on him even with his injury concerns because of his upside. MM and JW are the unknowns when it comes to GM's. They are a risk right now that they could be Ryan leaf or manziel... You never know when drafting. Again 13m for a QB is avg pay right now in the leauge. So GM's again will say his upside is worth the risk imo.

Again, you're assuming things based on two teams interest, doesn't make statistical sense. Every team in the NFL knew he was available and only two showed interest. Doesn't that tell you something?
Also, please name another QB that has never led their team to the playoffs in their(half decade long)career, who makes that much money? As far as I know, there isn't one.

 

[zeke2829]

ill give you 7 teams that Bradford would be the hands down favorite to get the starting job going into the season not including the Brown and Eagles...

So how can you guys say other teams wouldn't want him??
1. NYJ
2. Buffalo
3. Wash
4. Tampa
5. Miami
6. Houston
7. Tenn

8. Chicago (probable would start)

It's not about my "love" it's about the fact you guys are in a crazy denial that these teams wouldn't want him.
Oh and next year when Manning retires you can put Denver at the top of the list.

nobody but you cares, SAMMY is no longer a RAM! .......Time to move on.....I think its AWESOME! .....SEE YA! ......BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[27mtrcougar]

The Eagles team thread would love a Bradford supporter right now, the only supporter that Sam has been seen with the Rams has a brace tied to it. I am glad Sammy is gone, don't have ill will but it was way past time he left us. Try the Eagles thread Cougar for the spin, we here have already lived the for too much time.

Again, you're assuming things based on two teams interest, doesn't make statistical sense. Every team in the NFL knew he was available and only two showed interest. Doesn't that tell you something?
Also, please name another QB that has never led their team to the playoffs in their(half decade long)career, who makes that much money? As far as I know, there isn't one.

Like I said the Eagles were the only team that could give us a QB in return. The Rams don't trade him period without a potential starting QB in return. NOT even for a first rd pick. That eliminates pretty much all the teams because they don't have a QB. What does that tell you? Teams just can't come out and say they want him when they know they don't have the trade pieces to get the deal done. That would just cause friction with the other QB's on the roster. Your ? About leading the team to a playoff appearance is irrelevant to a GM. Your looking at it as a Rams fan. A GM just sees a QB that was on terrible teams that did pretty well when on the field and thinks he will give him the weapons to succeed.

 

[27mtrcougar]

nobody but you cares, SAMMY is no longer a RAM! .......Time to move on.....I think its AWESOME! .....SEE YA! ......BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

Again it's not that I care it's just you guys saying NFL teams don't value him and they do.

 

[shopson67]

Oh I see its a money issue for you. Well the Eagles and Browns proved NFL teams don't care about that for a QB. And are willing to take a chance with his Knee. You do realize Bradford is mid pack when it comes for highest payed QB's? 13m is not much for a starting QB.

Money is an issue for every NFL team. The salary cap makes it so.

13m is a lot if you take into account games played. He's played in 49 games out of a possible 80, 61.25%. I'll round up and make that 10 games per season. How does 13m for 10 games sound? The equivalent of paying $20.8M for the season. That puts him 3rd, behind Romo and Brees. Does that sound like good value?

 

[LongtimeRamsFan42]

Like I said the Eagles were the only team that could give us a QB in return. The Rams don't trade him period without a potential starting QB in return. NOT even for a first rd pick. That eliminates pretty much all the teams because they don't have a QB. What does that tell you? Teams just can't come out and say they want him when they know they don't have the trade pieces to get the deal done. That would just cause friction with the other QB's on the roster. Your ? About leading the team to a playoff appearance is irrelevant to a GM. Your looking at it as a Rams fan. A GM just sees a QB that was on terrible teams that did pretty well when on the field and thinks he will give him the weapons to succeed.

So that's the excuse now? The fact is, only two teams showed interest. You can make up all the scenarios you want, but only two teams offered and there aren't only two teams in the NFL needing QBs. It has nothing to do with upsetting players or causing friction. Every team has the chips to trade for a guy if they really want him and the Rams not getting back a QB wouldn't have mattered if the deal is right. Lets put it this way, If the Browns offered us both of their number one picks, are you saying we wouldn't have taken it because we don't get back a QB?. There are always other deals available, even for a guy like Foles who wanted out badly. With Chip in charge, he would've been out one way or another by draft day.

As to what GMs are thinking about Bradford, how do you know? Are you a GM? if you are, wonderful, who are you and lets gets some direct quotes. If you aren't, you have no standing to make that kind of comment. Highly paid NFL QB's elevate their teams to wins, even bad/mediocre teams. That's what makes them successful NFL QB's.

 

[ANGELAKERAMS]

You know what Coug

I'm glad there was a team crazy enough in love with the guy like you to take on his ridiculous salary and give us a better QB and draft picks in return.

I'm glad Chip was drinking the "potential" kool-aid with you so we don't have to watch him collect 13M from the Rams while standing on the sideline with crutches.

All we ever heard for the last 4 seasons were excuses and if's.

I'm done with the excuses and if's and I'm glad the Rams are too.

Bradford did nothing for the Rams ( except take their money and refuse to renegotiate when they asked ) that would ever make me root for him.

It's not like he was Warner, where you could root for the guy to resurrect his career and then root for him to win the SB when he did resurrect his career because of what he did for the Rams.

I'm glad someone was crazy enough to take him off our hands. Now, we are rid of him and I'm done caring what happens to his career.

End of story!

 

[Retroram52]

I think we have all beat this horse until no tissue is left and then some. Several posters such as Zeke, ALR, SJ76, and Vita to name a few have stated the man has been traded and is no longer a Ram. SO I suggest we end this continuing argument because we have exhausted all of the possible reasons that can prove Cougar's argument to be based in fallacy more than reality. Cougar isn't going to change his mind even with obvious evidence right in the posts that he either ignores or cannot see and the story is not done elsewhere.

Zeke and Smed have the best solution. If you want to continue to follow Sammie go to the Eagles thread or whatever team he finally ends up with and follow the player there. I think it is safe to say, the majority of us have had enough of this discussion. Geez, give it a rest!

 

[zeke2829]

You know what Coug

I'm glad there was a team crazy enough in love with the guy like you to take on his ridiculous salary and give us a better QB and draft picks in return.

I'm glad Chip was drinking the "potential" kool-aid with you so we don't have to watch him collect 13M from the Rams while standing on the sideline with crutches.

All we ever heard for the last 4 seasons were excuses and if's.

I'm done with the excuses and if's and I'm glad the Rams are too.

Bradford did nothing for the Rams ( except take their money and refuse to renegotiate when they asked ) that would ever make me root for him.

It's not like he was Warner, where you could root for the guy to resurrect his career and then root for him to win the SB when he did resurrect his career because of what he did for the Rams.

I'm glad someone was crazy enough to take him off our hands. Now, we are rid of him and I'm done caring what happens to his career.

End of story!

Right on Angel, couldn't have said it better!

 

[Retroram52]

ill give you 7 teams that Bradford would be the hands down favorite to get the starting job going into the season not including the Brown and Eagles...

So how can you guys say other teams wouldn't want him??
1. NYJ
2. Buffalo
3. Wash
4. Tampa
5. Miami
6. Houston
7. Tenn

8. Chicago (probable would start)

It's not about my "love" it's about the fact you guys are in a crazy denial that these teams wouldn't want him.
Oh and next year when Manning retires you can put Denver at the top of the list.

A lot of this is simply not true. Buffalo originally stated they were interested but then pulled back when the HC Ryan stated he was content with their QB situation dispelling a lot of rumors conjured by the media. Others have already stated the reasons for the other teams not being apart of this. So I am done with this as well.

 

[27mtrcougar]

Again guys I think it was a good trade for the Rams. I'm not saying this as a sam lover or supporter just from how I think the NFL perceives his value way more then most ram fans. Do you guys watch TV? They never question his talent only if he can stay on the field. I will concede and we will find out his value to the rest of the leauge next year when he is a FA. And there are a lot of FA QB's next year.

 

[zeke2829]

I think we have all beat this horse until no tissue is left and then some. Several posters such as Zeke, ALR, SJ76, and Vita to name a few have stated the man has been traded and is no longer a Ram. SO I suggest we end this continuing argument because we have exhausted all of the possible reasons that can prove Cougar's argument to be based in fallacy more than reality. Cougar isn't going to change his mind even with obvious evidence right in the posts that he either ignores or cannot see and the story is not done elsewhere.

Zeke and Smed had the best solution. If you want to continue to follow Sammie go to the Eagles thread or whatever team he finally ends up with and follow the player there. I think it is safe to say, the majority of us have had enough of this discussion. Geez, give it a rest!

Thank You Retro,
I don't know about you guys but I am tired of hearing the ongoing Sam Bradford drama. He is now GONE now and we are still hearing about it. When he was here it pretty much divided the board mostly and at times has even got a few in trouble, including myself and because of it. There is a reason why Snisher traded Sam, why they did it we will probably never know. So now that he's gone, its time to forget about it and make new discussions about our new players and for crying out loud lets NOT divide the board over 1 GUY! Sure we all have different personalities and we all want to win but this guy IMO did more harm than good! I don't understand why no one cant understand that?........OK I'm done now!

 

[ozarkram]

Cougar, you have stated you arguments well but the fact remains for most here Bradford will never be liked. Sadly should Foles stumbled the same fate will await him. And very quickly.