Ian Lapperierre is an Idiot

[DaBoltsNIsles]

they wont divulge much, but they'll divulge enough to know whether they're guilty or not.. we may not get a play by play of the night in question, but we'll know if she was lying (innocent), he was a bad person (witness), or he was a scumbag (culprit).

I look at it like this, if Cousins & the other two are playing hockey shortly after the decision from the court comes down, they were found innocent.

 

[pixburgher66]

oh i dont think anyone is against pix here, if lappy is referring to this incident in those quotes, he's being way to non-chalant about it. no question. but he also may be referring to something else, like a partying lifestyle that he's hoping cousins outgrows.

on the flip side, and in defense of cousins, it is very possible that this is an incident of a drunk girl wanting to repair a mistake she made, or gain publicity, a la the duke case. it's a touchy topic, and any allegation should be taken seriously, but it's far to easy to make a big story out of a non-story with this stuff.. so just like we shouldn't turn the girl away out of that possibility, we shouldn't hang cousins + teammates before the whole story is known

I admit to not considering his comments being taken out of context, but that's extremely irresponsible journalism if so (and I didn't expect a Philly reporter to pain a guy respected in Philly is such a light). On the second note: I feel women need to protect themselves in anyway possible, and are responsible for their level of inebriation (with exception to those cases in which they are "made" to be drunk), however men are still responsible for their actions, regardless of level of intoxication. In general men get away with this crap a lot. In regards to this specific instance, I'm not sure it's a publicity stunt because of the points made...what publicity would she get in Canada with closed courts? I realize it happens, and those girls piss me off because their actions lead to other women not reporting abuse in fear of being dragged through the mud ala The Scarlet Letter.

 

[pixburgher66]

that's the kind of stuff that worries me.. a girl decides she didn't want to do what she did and it's immediately her word against yours. and in today's society, her word wins more often then not. that's why you have to be careful with these cases. you can't throw them out, but you cant assume guys are guilty right away either.

The truly sad part is that (general thought says) most cases go unreported.

 

[awaz]

I admit to not considering his comments being taken out of context, but that's extremely irresponsible journalism if so (and I didn't expect a Philly reporter to pain a guy respected in Philly is such a light). On the second note: I feel women need to protect themselves in anyway possible, and are responsible for their level of inebriation (with exception to those cases in which they are "made" to be drunk), however men are still responsible for their actions, regardless of level of intoxication. In general men get away with this crap a lot. In regards to this specific instance, I'm not sure it's a publicity stunt because of the points made...what publicity would she get in Canada with closed courts? I realize it happens, and those girls piss me off because their actions lead to other women not reporting abuse in fear of being dragged through the mud ala The Scarlet Letter.

heh, it's philly. in the same article they had a poll asking who you were giving up for lent, the eagles, flyers, or sixers, with some condecending remark about each just for good measure.

i agree w/ the middle portion whole-heartedly. drinking in excess is extremely dangerous on both sides. both sides loose a little bit of control and bad shit happens. put it in a party scene and it gets even worse. girls can be taken advantage of easier, and guys can find themselves in a world of trouble if they're in bed with the wrong type of girl, one that would do this --->

to the publicity thing, for all we know she has a vendetta against these guys, and they're getting terrible publicity now.. i dont think you can under estimate how far people will go to trash each other

 

[awaz]

The truly sad part is that (general thought says) most cases go unreported.

oh i think you're right, but i think they are equally as sad.. girls dont deserve to get raped, but innocent guys don't deserve to be labeled a rapist either.. both are life ruiners

 

[4thstreet]

And this article is pretty tastelessly written.

This has nothing to do with my fandom, but with my humanity and gender. It reads as if the guy got caught underage drinking, or smoking pot.

Many wondered whether Cousins was snubbed from the Super Series and Team Canada for his alleged off-ice transgressions. Cousins and two teammates were arrested on Aug. 25 for having sexual intercourse with an unnamed woman, known to the players, against her will. Prosecutors have not dropped the charges, which are still pending in court. Cousins attended counseling before being reinstated by the Greyhounds.

The embarrassing situation gave Cousins, the Greyhounds and the Flyers a collective black eye. It's an image that he's still trying to shed.

"At the pro level, teams expect you to be an adult and act like one," Laperriere said. "He's got a good heart . . . Let's be honest, stuff like that has been happening forever.* You can't get away with anything now. He can't put himself in those situations.

*"He's been in trouble with this stuff, but hopefully that's all going to go away. *Part of my job is telling him that he needs to learn from that. You need to be careful what you're doing. All of our prospects need to learn from his situation."


Giving him a chance, that's great, but the guy is acting like it's some minor detail. Sickens me how often this crap happens in sports.

makes a difference when you highlight certain words.In no way ,do I interpret this as Lavi condoning or defending him.

 

[forty_three]

[/B]

makes a difference when you highlight certain words.In no way ,do I interpret this as Lavi condoning or defending him.

That's kind of where I am on Ian's words. I got "behaving yourself is not that hard. You might be blowing millions of dollars just by putting yourself in a stupid situation or doing stupid things. Everyone needs to understand that."

No comment on the dumbass who did it, or what he did except "Behaving yourself is not that hard".

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Pix weren't you the one passing judgement on Manti Teo the second that deadspin article broke?


This is another case of 1. not knowing the full truth of a case and probably never will and 2. I doubt Ian meant exactly what he said or the words used.

As someone mentioned, Ian probably is going of the fact that he is innocent and only talking about young athletes putting themselves in bad situations. Not necessarily murdering or raping, just partying too hard and making a fool of themselves. Ian is too nice of a guy to actually mean the quotes text here.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Holy out of proportion. Damn those classless Flyers

 

[Dacks]

A follow-up with Ian

I think there are two ways to look at it:
- He is saying r*pe happens all the time and prospects shouldn't expect to get away with it
- He is saying that young players put themselves in bad situations where they could get wrongfully accused of r*pe or sexual assault

I wouldn't underestimate second-language issues either. Growing up in Montreal and living in Ottawa, I have a lot of francophone friends and colleagues, and trust me, it's easy to screw up your meaning, happens to me speaking French all the time.

But mostly I give him the benefit of the doubt, because even if somebody believed the above, (which I'm sure some assholes do) I don't think they'd ever say it to a reporter.

Having both a friend who was date-raped and a friend who was wrongfully accused of date-r*pe, I really hate this sort of thing. It's times like this I really wish polygraphs were accurate enough to stand up in court. But even then, alcohol can cloud your memory...

 

[Dacks]

I think you can make a case for Ian's comments. He probably genuinely believes Cousins is innocent, and the way the article is written, he could have been referring to his off-ice behaviour in general, not that specific charge.

But I'll agree with Pix that the article is fucking terrible. The guy is charged with r*pe, or at least some type of sexual assault, and it's barely referenced as anything more than some "off-ice transgressions". Not really appropriate IMO.

 

[flyersfan4706]

@DNFlyers: For those asking, re: Cousins story, if charges in court call it "sexual assault," I cannot call it "r*pe" in a story. No tiptoeing here.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

Also, Ian can barely speak the english language. Have you heard him talk?

I highly doubt he means the words that came out of his mouth.

 

[juliansteed]

Yeah I don't think he meant to say that "r*pe" happens all the time and was shrugging it off like it was no big deal. I think what he meant was partying a bit much, and being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people etc., and (semi) celebs putting themselves in situations to be wrongfully accused. In fact I think that by saying "it happens all the time" while acknowledging that some mistakes were made, is a way of showing support for his player that he believes he is being wrongfully accused, even if he actually has no way of knowing this himself.

 

[elocomotive]

from all accounts cousins is not the primary suspect here.

Who is? Kobe? Roethlisberger?

 

[TOX1]

Who is? Kobe? Roethlisberger?

The other 2 that were involved in the crime/situation - Fellow Sault St. Marie players Andrew Fritsch, and Mark Petacchio.

 

[TOX1]

Also, Ian can barely speak the english language. Have you heard him talk?

I highly doubt he means the words that came out of his mouth.

lol I actually seen this conversation on CSN when it happened. Yes, he did utter those particular words but it was obvious that he wasn't blowing off or making light of any of the charges. The conversation in where he said these words was about young kids making mistakes while being drunk. Not about the r*pe incident. They went out of their way to NOT talk about the charges but to focus it on dumb mistakes while under the influence.