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I think this was telling in the TT recap

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Trickett finished the game with 301 yards and two scores, completing 28 of his 44 pass attempts. Wendell Smallwood and Rushel Shell both went over the 100-yard mark, finishing the game with 123 and 110 yards, respectively, while Kevin White had his sixth consecutive 100-yard game after finishing with 13 grabs for 123 yards. Jordan Thompson also caught six passes for 109 yards.
It was the first time in school history WVU had two players run for 100 yards and two players go for more than 100 yards receiving in the same game.


For a HC known as a pass happy guy how much more balance could you ask for...


As I told BBW where this team has flaws is in its front 7...Kiawtowski and Tonkery and tackle and go side to side extremely well. but they are too slow and a bit undersized to get to the QB in blitz packages..same for the edge LBs...and they are too small in the front 3 to get any kind of push or rush off the edges...frustrating to watch and its a big reason why this team struggles on defense.......
 

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WVU ran the ball 50 times and threw for 44. 94 freakin' plays they ran on Saturday. Ran more than they threw.

The Dana haters criticize him for being pass happy. Come again...

The Dana haters criticize him for no adjustments. Come again...

The Dana haters criticize his clock management. Come again...

The Dana haters criticize his lack of concern for defense. Come again...

WVU fans need to keep it real...
 

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BB, DH's clock management has been bad fairly often. It was not vs TT. I've never criticized him as being pass happy or not making adjustments, but the poor clock management has been a real issue. It had worked out for the best so far, but on Saturday vs TT there was zero issue.

And then again maybe there never was an issue. Maybe DH knows Josh can blast it through the uprights from 99 yards away...
 

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WVU ran the ball 50 times and threw for 44. 94 freakin' plays they ran on Saturday. Ran more than they threw.

The Dana haters criticize him for being pass happy. Come again...

The Dana haters criticize him for no adjustments. Come again...

The Dana haters criticize his clock management. Come again...

The Dana haters criticize his lack of concern for defense. Come again...

WVU fans need to keep it real...

Quoting BB from a few weeks ago, let's don't over react to one game....clock management, ineffective or no halftime adjustments, and not coaching when we are on defense have been issues, and play calling has been suspect at times. That is not hating, it is the simple truth. To call people haters for talking about flaws that will cause losses is just ridiculous.
 

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BB, DH's clock management has been bad fairly often. It was not vs TT. I've never criticized him as being pass happy or not making adjustments, but the poor clock management has been a real issue. It had worked out for the best so far, but on Saturday vs TT there was zero issue.

And then again maybe there never was an issue. Maybe DH knows Josh can blast it through the uprights from 99 yards away...

One of the things I like about Dana is that he takes accountability for his mistakes.

In the past, he had admitted when he should have done a better job with any number of game issues.

While I have stated it makes me uneasy to watch the clock wind down, Dana has defended his position so often questioned after the Maryland game.

It is a different strategy than the old school. But, he thinks outside of the box.
 

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Please tell me how it is a clock management issue when we have one all the games where people said it was a issue? :noidea:
 

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Please tell me how it is a clock management issue when we have one all the games where people said it was a issue? :noidea:

Does that mean that throwing five ints in a game is not an issue if you win? Does that mean you don't have an issue on defense because you won 70-63? Does it mean special teams that continually have lousy coverage, muff punts, get field goals blocked isn't an issue, because you won? When you go for it on fourth down in the red zone, rather than kick the FG, then kick a FG with seconds left to win, does it mean all is ok because it went through? For someone who bitched about lack of offense in wins not long ago, you sure have changed your tune.:wtf2:
 

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Does that mean that throwing five ints in a game is not an issue if you win? Does that mean you don't have an issue on defense because you won 70-63? Does it mean special teams that continually have lousy coverage, muff punts, get field goals blocked isn't an issue, because you won? When you go for it on fourth down in the red zone, rather than kick the FG, then kick a FG with seconds left to win, does it mean all is ok because it went through? For someone who bitched about lack of offense in wins not long ago, you sure have changed your tune.:wtf2:

Why have issues about what happened last year and two years ago. What matters is winning and building a winning program, not the fact that we gave up 63 points to one of the best offenses in the country and won. Bama fans are not concerned that our STs burned them for a TD.:gaah:


I just hope that they don't do it again this year.
 

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Now the idiot in you really comes out....

The play-calling in all of the games you have complained about led to 3 wins, so what was the issue with the play-calling again? Do you not look at it over the course of the game and not a handful of plays? So because we did not get every 1st down or because you didn't like a play there is a issue with a play-calling?

Stay on point you can do it.....what was the issue with play calling again?
 

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OK, this is so much crap.... :pound: Even winners can point to things they could have done better. The fact that you were able to snatch victory from the jaws of certain defeat does not mean you don't need to work on the things that you did wrong in the game. The best coaches know that, the best players do too. And so do the best fans. They should expect it from their team. I do.
We can all do things to improve, in all facets of our lives, even when we are winning.
It is what defines you as a WINNER. :suds:
 

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OK, this is so much crap.... :pound: Even winners can point to things they could have done better. The fact that you were able to snatch victory from the jaws of certain defeat does not mean you don't need to work on the things that you did wrong in the game. The best coaches know that, the best players do too. And so do the best fans. They should expect it from their team. I do.
We can all do things to improve, in all facets of our lives, even when we are winning.
It is what defines you as a WINNER. :suds:
:agree::10::suds:
 

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Yes every team can strive to be better at everything every game....I am asking what was wrong with the play calling in the particular game...can't look at a couple of plays that were not successful and say the play calling sucked when all together the play calling for the win.

Plus add the fact as fans we have benefit of seeing results before we start bitching about play calling..
 
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i guess that I miss how wanting your team to do their best makes you the best fan. Sometimes your best isn't as good as your opponent. Does this mean that I haven't strived to be the best? Or the coaches haven't strived to be the best? The time game planning or practicing? It's obvious that this team has made strides to be better each game. It definitely shows versus last season. There is a big difference between expressing concern and beating a dead horse just as there is a big difference between expressing a concern versus reaching for something to have something to say.
 

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All these things make for good debate. Lots of questions with no real right answer. Should he have gone for it on 4th down, why didn't he call a time out, why is that guy still returning punts, run on 3rd and 11. WTF. Football coaching is one of the easiest things to pick apart. Announcers do it, journalists do it, we do it. No big deal especially when you are winning.
 

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It is indeed part of being a fan to question what moves a coach makes, especially when the called play goes bad. I can deal with a call where the play had the kids in the right place, but failed due to a dropped pass or missed block much easier than I can when the play is 4th and 5 inside the 20 in a tight game and you go for it, you have to take the points. The fans I really like are the ones who call a coach a genius because a DB fell down and a long TD pass was made...........
 

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I also agree with those who feel fans have a right to bitch about play calling. It is why the term 'arm chair QB' was started. Fans who are passionate about their favorite team want to see success on the field.

But, like Jeighmonee used to point out to the masses who bitched about Stewart's play calling, you have to understand the game at a higher level to have any credibility.

I certainly don't know the game at a high enough level to critique the play calling.

I understand DAD's point about not getting points though. But, as we've learned with Dana's system… the QB is given options on every play. Sometimes the QB makes a good read… sometimes he may not. Sometimes the play is executed well… sometimes it might not.

I loved having Jeigh help us analyze certain plays with video on CBS. I learned a lot from him…
 

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I also agree with those who feel fans have a right to bitch about play calling. It is why the term 'arm chair QB' was started. Fans who are passionate about their favorite team want to see success on the field.

But, like Jeighmonee used to point out to the masses who bitched about Stewart's play calling, you have to understand the game at a higher level to have any credibility.

I certainly don't know the game at a high enough level to critique the play calling.

I understand DAD's point about not getting points though. But, as we've learned with Dana's system… the QB is given options on every play. Sometimes the QB makes a good read… sometimes he may not. Sometimes the play is executed well… sometimes it might not.

I loved having Jeigh help us analyze certain plays with video on CBS. I learned a lot from him…
I have scratched my head watching so many games where a team will throw passes from their own 15 all the way down the field, then have a first down in the red zone and run up the middle three times for two yards, or rush 8 yards at a time only to throw three incomplete passes at the ten. Play calling is an art, not a science, but you do need to keep the odds in your favor.
 

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Yeah lets complain about whatever we want, that is why some are fans...but play calling is one of those things like J used to point out that are part of a bigger game plan....maybe a play called here that was not very productive set up a play later during he course of the game that led to a TD. Regardless, when all the plays called add up to over 500 yards of offense and close to 40 points hard to say good play calling was lacking. Sometimes we forget as well that the other side is also calling plays, you may have the perfect play called, they may just have one a little better. There are so many variables out there that go into a play being ran that just saying "bad play" call is irresponsible. :suds:
 
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Lets not forget that the QB has the option to change the play as well. May not all be from the the coaches.
 

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Yeah lets complain about whatever we want, that is why some are fans...but play calling is one of those things like J used to point out that are part of a bigger game plan....maybe a play called here that was not very productive set up a play later during he course of the game that led to a TD. Regardless, when all the plays called add up to over 500 yards of offense and close to 40 points hard to say good play calling was lacking. Sometimes we forget as well that the other side is also calling plays, you may have the perfect play called, they may just have one a little better. There are so many variables out there that go into a play being ran that just saying "bad play" call is irresponsible. :suds:

I will always stand by bad play calling in 13-9, running the same play 70 times in a game, HOPING someone breaks free is indeed BS play calling.................
 
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