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I'm 72 and eat whatever I damn well please - but in moderation. I recently had a heart catheter and all my arteries are clear. No blockages anywhere. All that red meat and butter seems not to have had an impact.
I've never smoked and I'm easy on sweets.
I've had a high-risk life and screwed everything that moved.
I'm probably going to live longer than I want.

Life is like playing Russian roulette - just don't put too many bullets in the gun!

… why did you have a heart catheter ?
 

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… why did you have a heart catheter ?
My doctor felt that at my age is should get a full panel of tests.
I got hit by lightning in 1982 and I sometimes have an irregular heartbeat.
It has been long known that the cause needs no treatment but she is very careful with old hearts.
 

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My doctor felt that at my age is should get a full panel of tests.
I got hit by lightning in 1982 and I sometimes have an irregular heartbeat.
It has been long known that the cause needs no treatment but she is very careful with old hearts.

Red meat and butter, screwed around, and got hit by lightning … I’m doing ok myself, but reading about you makes me wish I never smoked!
 

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Red meat and butter, screwed around, and got hit by lightning … I’m doing ok myself, but reading about you makes me wish I never smoked!
raced motocycles professionally, did cliff diving whenever I got the chance. Once jumped off the end of a pier and swim 2 miles out to a sailboat to say hi. I made explosives as a kid. I collected rocks as a kid and carried around a chunk of uranium ore in my pocket.
Performed a lot of dangerous work. And yes, got hit by lightning. Survived 2 close calls almost drowning. At 15 I snuck into a state prison to fish in their reservoir. I could keep going but I have no idea why anyone would want health advice from me!
 

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I'm 72 and eat whatever I damn well please - but in moderation. I recently had a heart catheter and all my arteries are clear. No blockages anywhere. All that red meat and butter seems not to have had an impact.
I've never smoked and I'm easy on sweets.
I've had a high-risk life and screwed everything that moved.
I'm probably going to live longer than I want.

Life is like playing Russian roulette - just don't put too many bullets in the gun!
Red meat and butter keeps you burning fat instead of sugar. Best diet there is.
 

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Red meat and butter keeps you burning fat instead of sugar. Best diet there is.
That's where the discussion gets weird.

Follow the food chain properly and you'll be healthy. Anyone here like eating grass? It has nutrients you really need. But bovine eat grass and we eat bovine, therefore we ate grass too. As a bonus, we love the taste.

Then some enterprising farmer says "it's cheaper to keep them in a barn and feed them the cheapest grains we can find. The animals are happy and healthy (they don’t live long enough for generative diseases) and as a bonus, the meat is more marbled and tastier.

Problem is, nobody told us we needed grass and it was taken from us.

I mostly buy grass fed, though I know there are probably some food chain issues there too.
 

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That's where the discussion gets weird.

Follow the food chain properly and you'll be healthy. Anyone here like eating grass? It has nutrients you really need. But bovine eat grass and we eat bovine, therefore we ate grass too. As a bonus, we love the taste.

Then some enterprising farmer says "it's cheaper to keep them in a barn and feed them the cheapest grains we can find. The animals are happy and healthy (they don’t live long enough for generative diseases) and as a bonus, the meat is more marbled and tastier.

Problem is, nobody told us we needed grass and it was taken from us.
It's not the grass. It's the sugar.

Fat, which is carbohydrates broken down to glucose, converted to glycogen and stored, has more calories than just sugar. But it takes calories to break the fat down and reconvert it to useable glucose through the hormone glucagon.

Sugar stimulates Insulin release to break the carbs down to be stored as fat and always regulate blood sugar spikes and dips. A higher fat diet keeps those blood sugar levels steady.
 

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It's not the grass. It's the sugar.

Fat, which is carbohydrates broken down to glucose, converted to glycogen and stored, has more calories than just sugar. But it takes calories to break the fat down and reconvert it to useable glucose through the hormone glucagon.

Sugar stimulates Insulin release to break the carbs down to be stored as fat and always regulate blood sugar spikes and dips. A higher fat diet keeps those blood sugar levels steady.
Two things can be true at once. We need cla and omega 3s and other stuff we don't get from factory cows. A similar thing happens with factory eggs.

Additionally, the fat profile as a whole has less nutrition and is broken down less. That forces more to the bloodstream and liver and so on.
 

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Two things can be true at once. We need cla and omega 3s and other stuff we don't get from factory cows. A similar thing happens with factory eggs.

Additionally, the fat profile as a whole has less nutrition and is broken down less. That forces more to the bloodstream and liver and so on.
Same with micronutrients in the factory vegetables.
 

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Two things can be true at once. We need cla and omega 3s and other stuff we don't get from factory cows. A similar thing happens with factory eggs.

Additionally, the fat profile as a whole has less nutrition and is broken down less. That forces more to the bloodstream and liver and so on.
People HATE to pay $10 for a dozen Free Range/Organic eggs...but its $10 for ...4 meals???

And thr FR/O eggs have all the nutrients and are only 70 cal per egg.

Also, grass fed beef whenever possible. Ribeyes have the full load of Fat, sirloin or tenderloin, not so much.
 
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