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I just dont get why this idea wont work for conf. scheduling

john01992

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i have proposed it countless times and yet it has never kicked off. or better yet how come no one of note has ever proposed it. it seems pretty solid imo

its purpose is too eliminate conference dodging and keep conferences "whole" rather than two split divisions. nowhere in the book does it say a conference must have divisions.

its setup up has NO DIVISIONS. the schools play on a round robin schedule over a 2 year period. each school gets 2 fixed yearly rivals. the rest play on rotation.

michigan

year 1
wisconsin
northwestern
illinois
purdue
IU
nebraska
penn state
ohio state
michigan state

does not play
rutgers
maryland
minn
iowa


year 2
rutgers
maryland
minn
iowa
wisconsin
northwestern
illinois
ohio state
michigan state

does not play
purdue
IU
nebraska
penn state


year 3
purdue
IU
nebraska
penn state
rutgers
maryland
minn
ohio state
michigan state

does not play
iowa
wisconsin
northwestern
illinois


year 4
iowa
wisconsin
northwestern
illinois
purdue
IU
nebraska
ohio state
michigan state

the cycle keeps like that

conf. championship game
2 highest in the BCS get the bid.

this makes for the highest 2 in the conf. will meet every single time. no more of this 6-6 georgia tech vs FSU Bullsh...

now there is one problem......
ncaa rule: 17.9.1.2 © Twelve-Member Conference Championship Game. [FBS/FCS] A conference championship game between division champions of a member conference of 12 or more institutions that is divided into two divisions (of six or more institutions each), each of which conducts round-robin, regular-season competition among the members of that division;

however there is a precedent that allows for a conference to disregard this rule:
the MAC has been violating this NCAA rule ever since it went to 13 teams in 2007. The conference never applied for a waiver and no one at the NCAA has called them on violating the round-robin divisional play rule. for example kent state & umass dont play this year despite playing in the same division of the mac.
 

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Well, I'd say the major reason it won't work it you're proposing it on a message board among nobody that has influence over the NCAA or B1G.
 

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Well, I'd say the major reason it won't work it you're proposing it on a message board among nobody that has influence over the NCAA or B1G.
Bullshit Mike Emmert and Jim Delany read the Hoop religiously no way do they ignore this excellent suggestion.
 

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they may not read the hoop, but the glory of the internet is that good idea's do get posted online first before anything.

for example when the big east name change got leaked as the "america12" the response was very negative and a lot of people online suggested "AAC". and what do you know? the AAC was the name they eventually chose.
 

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I'd like to see 10-team conferences that play round robin like the PAC used to. No CCG, because there's already been a head-to-head.
It will never happen, of course.

But I like the OP idea also as a compromise.
 

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better patent that shit john.

Then if they use it you can sue the piss out of em...
 

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might i have struck gold here?

im starting to think so.....
 

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You mean like the Big XII-2 does now? :D

The only reason the Big12 is.... Because 4 teams left your conference and you were forced to pick up a MW and Big Least team.

But I like the round robin.
 

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The only reason the Big12 is.... Because 4 teams left your conference and you were forced to pick up a MW and Big Least team.

But I like the round robin.

Yeah, but the old Big 8 had it too. I was pissed when the Big XII formed and we went to division play, especially since we lost our annual game with Nebraska.
 

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9 conference games sucks. That only leaves 3 OOC games, which leaves very little for people to compare with other teams from other conferences.

I hate any and all 9 conference game schedules, and Nick Saban needs to shut his whore mouth! :lol:
 

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9 conference games sucks. That only leaves 3 OOC games, which leaves very little for people to compare with other teams from other conferences.

I hate any and all 9 conference game schedules, and Nick Saban needs to shut his whore mouth! :lol:

Worked fine in the Big XII when they had it. Face it, you just don't like the idea of losing that automatic win against an FCS school.
 

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Worked fine in the Big XII when they had it. Face it, you just don't like the idea of losing that automatic win against an FCS school.

FCS schools shouldn't be allowed on the schedule, and the best way to do that is to remove them from making teams bowl eligible. Currently, 1 FCS game is allowed for becoming bowl eligible and it's ridiculous.

All 9 conference games does is make college football more regional. I'd like to see conferences go away completely to be 100% honest with you, and for college football to be more national.
 

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And btw, did the FCS teams go away with other conferences that play 9 other teams?

Nope.

Why? Because they count towards being bowl eligible.
 

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9 conference games sucks. That only leaves 3 OOC games, which leaves very little for people to compare with other teams from other conferences.

I hate any and all 9 conference game schedules, and Nick Saban needs to shut his whore mouth! :lol:

really???

you would rather attend a game against chattoonga over florida?

#notsuprised
 

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FCS schools shouldn't be allowed on the schedule, and the best way to do that is to remove them from making teams bowl eligible. Currently, 1 FCS game is allowed for becoming bowl eligible and it's ridiculous.

All 9 conference games does is make college football more regional. I'd like to see conferences go away completely to be 100% honest with you, and for college football to be more national.

I have to apologize here, I made a big mistake. I counted wrong, it was only 8 games, 5 in division and 3 from the other. Just shoot me now. :L
 

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really???

you would rather attend a game against chattoonga over florida?

#notsuprised

No, I'd rather watch a game vs Oregon, Stanford, Ohio St, Michigan, Wisconsin, West Virginia, USC, Texas, Oklahoma during the regular season.
 

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No, I'd rather watch a game vs Oregon, Stanford, Ohio St, Michigan, Wisconsin, West Virginia, USC, Texas, Oklahoma during the regular season.

really?????? thats only possible with 4 ooc spots? go to 3 and its suddenly impossible?
 

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really?????? thats only possible with 4 ooc spots? go to 3 and its suddenly impossible?

It's less likely with only 3 OOC for obvious reasons.
 

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9 conference games sucks. That only leaves 3 OOC games, which leaves very little for people to compare with other teams from other conferences.

I hate any and all 9 conference game schedules, and Nick Saban needs to shut his whore mouth! :lol:

You do realize that you could get rid of one of your FCS caliber teams and play an SEC team, right? That doesn't affect comparing teams to teams in other conferences.
 
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