I have a question for all of the BPA thinkers.

[Stymietee]

It's draft day and the 5th pick is on the clock, Washington has as it's BPA by far A. Cooper.....do you draft him or pass?

 

[j_y19]

Just depends on who else is on the board and how much higher I have Cooper ranked than the next BPA that might fill a position of need. If I have to reach significantly to fill a position of need, then yes, I take cooper.

BTW, this answer supposes that I rank Cooper as the BPA with the 5th pick, which I don't.

 

[Stymietee]

Just depends on who else is on the board and how much higher I have Cooper ranked than the next BPA that might fill a position of need. If I have to reach significantly to fill a position of need, then yes, I take cooper.

BTW, this answer supposes that I rank Cooper as the BPA with the 5th pick, which I don't.

No....no....no you've changed the intent of the question. My question has Cooper as the consensus BPA at 5 by far (as stated) . According to my reading of the posts on the subject, some have suggested that all else notwithstanding the team takes the BPA, all I want to know is does this still stand with them?

 

[j_y19]

No....no....no you've changed the intent of the question. My question has Cooper as the consensus BPA at 5 by far (as stated) . According to my reading of the posts on the subject, some have suggested that all else notwithstanding the team takes the BPA, all I want to know is does this still stand with them?

I guess maybe I don't understand your intent. Is this a theoretical question about BPA vs a position of need or a question specifically about Cooper?
As a poster that believes in taking BPAin theory, in practice the choice must always be weighed against need. If the BPA on your board is onlyslightly ranked higher than the next player that fills a position of need, then you opt for the next player. If cooper is ranked significantly higher than the next player on your board (which on mine he is not), then I take him (or I try and trade the pick)

If we are talking specifically about cooper, then, no, I personally am not that impressed to take him with the 5th pick.

 

[deanpet21]

jy19 i would love to know your top 10 big board.

 

[j_y19]

jy19 i would love to know your top 10 big board.

Why? At the end of the day, I don't know shit. I'm a pure guesser, just like the rest of us on this board.

 

[kbso83432]

Redskins could go in a different direction at No. 5

 

[obibyn]

Wait so stymie wants you to answer his question...but only answer it the way he wants you too? huh?

The thought process of the draft is to take BPA at #5....so if Cooper WAS the BPA at 5...then yes you take him...regardless of position...BUT that's assuming Cooper IS the BPA, which is only true in Stymies alternate reality....which obviously isn't reality at all...

Cooper...in reality...is not the BPA at 5....BUUUUT....if we pretend he is for the sake of stymies question...then yes...you take BPA...if that was Cooper...


Satisfied?

 

[j_y19]

Wait so stymie wants you to answer his question...but only answer it the way he wants you too? huh?

The thought process of the draft is to take BPA at #5....so if Cooper WAS the BPA at 5...then yes you take him...regardless of position...BUT that's assuming Cooper IS the BPA, which is only true in Stymies alternate reality....which obviously isn't reality at all...

Cooper...in reality...is not the BPA at 5....BUUUUT....if we pretend he is for the sake of stymies question...then yes...you take BPA...if that was Cooper...


Satisfied?

My thoughts exactly....I think!

 

[Stymietee]

I guess maybe I don't understand your intent. Is this a theoretical question about BPA vs a position of need or a question specifically about Cooper?
As a poster that believes in taking BPAin theory, in practice the choice must always be weighed against need. If the BPA on your board is onlyslightly ranked higher than the next player that fills a position of need, then you opt for the next player. If cooper is ranked significantly higher than the next player on your board (which on mine he is not), then I take him (or I try and trade the pick)

If we are talking specifically about cooper, then, no, I personally am not that impressed to take him with the 5th pick.

Nope, just probing the conundrum that BPA regardless folks must ultimately face. I selected Cooper specifically because as it appears now WR is not a pressing need on this team but must be the pick if he's the BPA by far using their reasoning.

 

[obibyn]

My thoughts exactly....I think!

I'm confused as well...trying to figure out which dimension I am in...and how to get back...

 

[martinez]

if hes scots bpa then yes, we draft him.

 

[j_y19]

Nope, just probing the conundrum that BPA regardless folks must ultimately face. I selected Cooper specifically because as it appears now WR is not a pressing need on this team but must be the pick if he's the BPA by far using their reasoning.

WR is not a pressing need this year. But you don't use the draft to fill immediate pressing needs, per se. The draft is all about long term strategic talent acquisition. Next year, WR will be a pressing need. So if you have the chance to draft a game changing WR this year that may only really start making an impact in years 2-5 and he is the BPA, then you do it. This all supposes that Cooper can become a game changing WR.

Let me flip your question around. Suppose Williams falls to us at 5. DL is no longer a pressing need. Do you take him?

 

[Stymietee]

Wait so stymie wants you to answer his question...but only answer it the way he wants you too? huh?

The thought process of the draft is to take BPA at #5....so if Cooper WAS the BPA at 5...then yes you take him...regardless of position...BUT that's assuming Cooper IS the BPA, which is only true in Stymies alternate reality....which obviously isn't reality at all...

Cooper...in reality...is not the BPA at 5....BUUUUT....if we pretend he is for the sake of stymies question...then yes...you take BPA...if that was Cooper...


Satisfied?

Go back and read some of the posts concerning who to select with the pick. There are some who state flatly that you pick the BPA regardless, which is why the title of the thread is aimed at BPA thinkers. The conundrum takes place if a team has other needs, yet rank a player not in a position of pressing need as BPA. Heard this on 980 yesterday, where one of the prognosticators suggested that Washington should take either Olb or WR at 5.

 

[obibyn]

Go back and read some of the posts concerning who to select with the pick. There are some who state flatly that you pick the BPA regardless, which is why the title of the thread is aimed at BPA thinkers. The conundrum takes place if a team has other needs, yet rank a player not in a position of pressing need as BPA. Heard this on 980 yesterday, where one of the prognosticators suggested that Washington should take either Olb or WR at 5.

I am on the belief that we take BPA...but I do not think Cooper is as top 5 talent...so I would not take him at 5. But if he was somehow the BPA (which would only happen if players more talented than him suddenly retired) then yes...I would take Cooper...if he was BPA

 

[j_y19]

Go back and read some of the posts concerning who to select with the pick. There are some who state flatly that you pick the BPA regardless, which is why the title of the thread is aimed at BPA thinkers. The conundrum takes place if a team has other needs, yet rank a player not in a position of pressing need as BPA. Heard this on 980 yesterday, where one of the prognosticators suggested that Washington should take either Olb or WR at 5.

So I think we both answered your question. In your theoretical scenario, we would both take cooper.

 

[Stymietee]

WR is not a pressing need this year. But you don't use the draft to fill immediate pressing needs, per se. The draft is all about long term strategic talent acquisition. Next year, WR will be a pressing need. So if you have the chance to draft a game changing WR this year that may only really start making an impact in years 2-5 and he is the BPA, then you do it. This all supposes that Cooper can become a game changing WR.

Let me flip your question around. Suppose Williams falls to us at 5. DL is no longer a pressing need. Do you take him?

Fortunately for me Im not a BPA kind of thinker. My focus is now as always for players in the trenches where games are won and loss. Right now we have got to address the OL period. If that means trading down, even if Williams is there, that's what has to be done.

 

[j_y19]

Fortunately for me Im not a BPA kind of thinker. My focus is now as always for players in the trenches where games are won and loss. Right now we have got to address the OL period. If that means trading down, even if Williams is there, that's what has to be done.

I agree with your sentiment about the need to shore up the trenches, but I would sprint to the podium to take Williams if he fell to us. History has proven that good OL can always be found later in the draft if you have a good talent evaluator, which everyone seems to believe we now have.

 

[Stymietee]

So I think we both answered your question. In your theoretical scenario, we would both take cooper.

Yep....sure did, e

Redskins could go in a different direction at No. 5

Thanks I couldn't remember the name of the guy who suggested WR at 5

 

[obibyn]

Fortunately for me Im not a BPA kind of thinker. My focus is now as always for players in the trenches where games are won and loss. Right now we have got to address the OL period. If that means trading down, even if Williams is there, that's what has to be done.

If we are to trade down...acquire multiple picks...and then address the O-line (which i agree is a bigger need than WR) then yes...I would be ok with that...BUT...this isn't the question you asked...and you avoided your own question to boot.


BTW What does "Fortunately for me Im not a BPA kind of thinker" mean? How does your line of thinking about a sport...make you fortunate? Does your ideas on a sport effect your daily life? Seems weird to me your thoughts on the business of a sport you watch...not partake or work in...would somehow make you fortunate. It effects you in no way...and by saying that you are either knowingly and unknowingly implying those who disagree with you are somehow unfortunate...which makes me laugh.