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Actually something I agree with the Jones on. Granted they are looking at this from a Cowboys perspective, but I seem to remember us losing a starting LT for four games last year as well.

I agree. The world is changing and the NFL's policy is outdated. Especially with so many former players saying how it helps with pain control.
 

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If they allow it they just wouldn't be able to police it and therein lies the problem. Players who are pot smokers would be bonging it before coming to the stadium on game days. Heck, maybe even some coaches. It's a complicated matter because most states, if not all, one day soon will allow the use of it,,, for medicinal purposes and recreational. Just a matter of time.

You say not a problem if a player is stoned out of their mind on game day. Not so sure about that. I believe that being high gives a distinct advantage to the player, and not everyone smokes pot in the NFL. It acts much differently than alcohol. It enhances your motor skills. It's why its so popular with Parkinson patients. If you're high and you're in that zone it increases your concentration immensely. At least it does for sex..lol. However, being high by the time a game starts would be rather difficult unless you're token in the bathroom before taking the field. However, I'm sure players would find a way. Eating brownies or putting it in a drink would be rather simple. It would be an easy thing to do as a player. Just as steroids there's a certain advantage to the drug... and again,, therein lies the problem for the NFL.
 

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The reason they can't allow it now is it is against federal law. The states that currently allow it are in violation of federal law.
 

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If they allow it they just wouldn't be able to police it and therein lies the problem. Players who are pot smokers would be bonging it before coming to the stadium on game days. Heck, maybe even some coaches. It's a complicated matter because most states, if not all, one day soon will allow the use of it,,, for medicinal purposes and recreational. Just a matter of time.

You say not a problem if a player is stoned out of their mind on game day. Not so sure about that. I believe that being high gives a distinct advantage to the player, and not everyone smokes pot in the NFL. It acts much differently than alcohol. It enhances your motor skills. It's why its so popular with Parkinson patients. If you're high and you're in that zone it increases your concentration immensely. At least it does for sex..lol. However, being high by the time a game starts would be rather difficult unless you're token in the bathroom before taking the field. However, I'm sure players would find a way. Eating brownies or putting it in a drink would be rather simple. It would be an easy thing to do as a player. Just as steroids there's a certain advantage to the drug... and again,, therein lies the problem for the NFL.

What makes you think players and coaches would arrive to works stoned? Do they arrive drunk now? I highly doubt it would provide an advantage. I've seen stoners in action and they do shit like driving in the fast lane of a highway doing 54 with the turn signal on. Being able to run a play, and carry out an assignment, while stoned may be something they won't even attempt. And I won't even go into trying to coach while stoned.

This whole theory is a bit unfair IMO.
 

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The reason they can't allow it now is it is against federal law. The states that currently allow it are in violation of federal law.


There are a few things that are against federal law, that the federal government should not have a say in. As long as they arent coming to work stoned, how some one manages their pain should be up to them, not the government in the first place.

Also as a side note, the only reason weed is STILL illegal is because the government hasnt decided on the best way to get their cut of the profits yet.
 

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There are a few things that are against federal law, that the federal government should not have a say in. As long as they arent coming to work stoned, how some one manages their pain should be up to them, not the government in the first place.

Also as a side note, the only reason weed is STILL illegal is because the government hasnt decided on the best way to get their cut of the profits yet.

I agree with much of this; however, it is illegal.

Also, whether legal or not, it still isn't a desired behavior to instill in kids.
 

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I agree with much of this; however, it is illegal.

Also, whether legal or not, it still isn't a desired behavior to instill in kids.

Neither is drinking...or a lot of things the NFL and our country have no problem with
 

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If they allow it they just wouldn't be able to police it and therein lies the problem. Players who are pot smokers would be bonging it before coming to the stadium on game days. Heck, maybe even some coaches. It's a complicated matter because most states, if not all, one day soon will allow the use of it,,, for medicinal purposes and recreational. Just a matter of time.

You say not a problem if a player is stoned out of their mind on game day. Not so sure about that. I believe that being high gives a distinct advantage to the player, and not everyone smokes pot in the NFL. It acts much differently than alcohol. It enhances your motor skills. It's why its so popular with Parkinson patients. If you're high and you're in that zone it increases your concentration immensely. At least it does for sex..lol. However, being high by the time a game starts would be rather difficult unless you're token in the bathroom before taking the field. However, I'm sure players would find a way. Eating brownies or putting it in a drink would be rather simple. It would be an easy thing to do as a player. Just as steroids there's a certain advantage to the drug... and again,, therein lies the problem for the NFL.

What type of weed are you smokin? Enhances motor skills? It might help lessen the shakes and tremors Parkinson's patients have to deal with. It isn't enhancing motor skills. Increases concentration immensely? Sure, I guess. It takes a "It'd be nice to have some cookie dough ice cream right now." thought to a "I need some cookie dough ice cream right now or I'm gonna shoot someone in the face!" obsession.

I used to smoke weed before football practice all the time. I never got high before a game though. I can't say smoking weed before practice helped or hurt me.

The NFL testing for weed is silly and unnecessary...............imo.
 

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Do you think alcohol should be illegal?

I am of the opinion all drugs should be illegal or all drugs should be illegal.

Again, just because something is legal doesn't make it good, nor do I think a league with such appeal to children should condone those behaciors.
 

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I am of the opinion all drugs should be illegal or all drugs should be illegal.

Again, just because something is legal doesn't make it good, nor do I think a league with such appeal to children should condone those behaciors.

Im assuming you meant all illegal or all legal.

I disagree, but no judgment. Was just curious if thats what you meant.
 

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What makes you think players and coaches would arrive to works stoned? Do they arrive drunk now? I highly doubt it would provide an advantage. I've seen stoners in action and they do shit like driving in the fast lane of a highway doing 54 with the turn signal on. Being able to run a play, and carry out an assignment, while stoned may be something they won't even attempt. And I won't even go into trying to coach while stoned.

This whole theory is a bit unfair IMO.
If they legalize it and the league then allows it you can bet your bottom ass players would arrive and be high also during games. Why,, because they can. Listen, you can easily spot a drunk.. off balance,, slurred speech,, impaired motor skills. To spot a person high off marijuana who has smoked for awhile would not be easy, if not impossible. No doubt it affects people diff and that's the problem I see... it affects people diff. Some it enhances productivity and some go to sleep. The league will never allow it. First it would have to become legal in all 50 states first anyway.
 

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What type of weed are you smokin? Enhances motor skills?
In some yes.. and that's the problem. Not all baseball players benefitted from the use of steroids... only some. The ones we took notice of. I shut down, panic and think of death when I smoke weed.. so its why I don't. Listen,, it's just my opinion and I don't care if players play high.
 

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If they legalize it and the league then allows it you can bet your bottom ass players would arrive and be high also during games. Why,, because they can. Listen, you can easily spot a drunk.. off balance,, slurred speech,, impaired motor skills. To spot a person high off marijuana who has smoked for awhile would not be easy, if not impossible. No doubt it affects people diff and that's the problem I see... it affects people diff. Some it enhances productivity and some go to sleep. The league will never allow it. First it would have to become legal in all 50 states first anyway.

Nonsense. You can see when someone is high easier than when someone is drunk, just look at the eyes.

Again they don't feel the desire to show up drunk, why would they feel the need to arrive high? You think it's easier for Chris Thompson to remember to take the blitzing safety while keeping track of the linebacker before releasing into the correct route in the split second that decision is needed while running the play "twenty two, rocket red dayglow, Mississippi, orange on three" when you are stoned? You think coaches can call plays from a 100 play sheet when they are stoned? I don't think you know very much about smoking pot to be honest.

As for your last line the legality of this in all 50 states has nothing to do with it. We are discussing testing and ramifications within the league. If they change the rule and do not test that has nothing to do with the legalization of pot in all 50 states.
 
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If they legalize it and the league then allows it you can bet your bottom ass players would arrive and be high also during games. Why,, because they can. Listen, you can easily spot a drunk.. off balance,, slurred speech,, impaired motor skills. To spot a person high off marijuana who has smoked for awhile would not be easy, if not impossible. No doubt it affects people diff and that's the problem I see... it affects people diff. Some it enhances productivity and some go to sleep. The league will never allow it. First it would have to become legal in all 50 states first anyway.

OK, as you're making the claim. How bout you back up said claim about weed enhancing productivity, enhancing motor skills and bring more focus and concentration in some people. Lets see some links/studies etc etc of this.

Not all drunks exhibit the signs of which you speak or are so easy to spot. Some drunks are extremely functional and w/o a test that would confirm their drunkenness beyond a doubt. You'd never even suspect that they were drunk.

You know what though, maybe you're right. Maybe players will get high before the game on a game day. So what? I get the impression you think a noticeable percentage of every team in the NFL will have players. Who show up on game day at the facility with a fat blunt ready to blaze as part of a new pregame ritual. Personally, I'm not concerned with that nor do I see it as a possibility to happen.

I will say this though........If reptec's scenario were to play out. I just hope all the Redskins players that are smokers. Are of the the weed makes them a better player, driver, lover, so on and so forth variety.
 

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Also as a side note, the only reason weed is STILL illegal is because the government hasnt decided on the best way to get their cut of the profits yet.

Pretty much imo
 
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