Hmmmm

[calsnowskier]

Morris for Davis



or



Durham for Ford (and Hammond)


???

 

[SFGRTB]

Well, Davis didn't win us anything (granted, he wasn't in a position to). Morris was a terrible contract though, Durham was in the last year of his deal.

Ford does have the ring.

 

[calsnowskier]

I think both deals ended up being GREAT!!

Morris/Davis was a sal dump, and we actually got a good player in return (even if the Giants never got the benefit of him). Ignore Davis, and the sal dump alone was a GREAT trade.

Durham/Ford was also a sal dump (only about 1 mil all said, IIRC). Throw in the fact that this trade MAY have saved the 2010 regular season, and this is a no-brainer AMAZINGLY AMAZING trade.

Both trades are small trades at the time that actually had HUGE payoffs that the average fan likely never sees.

Well done Sabes.

 

[SFGRTB]

I guess the guy knows what he's doing.

Who knew?

 

[gp956]

I think both deals ended up being GREAT!!

Morris/Davis was a sal dump, and we actually got a good player in return (even if the Giants never got the benefit of him). Ignore Davis, and the sal dump alone was a GREAT trade.

Durham/Ford was also a sal dump (only about 1 mil all said, IIRC). Throw in the fact that this trade MAY have saved the 2010 regular season, and this is a no-brainer AMAZINGLY AMAZING trade.

Both trades are small trades at the time that actually had HUGE payoffs that the average fan likely never sees.

Well done Sabes.

Very good points. But I have to counter with: dumping Davis for nothing, and replacing him with an inferior player for 60 mil - whose continued presence might result in Ford being optioned back to Fresno in a couple of weeks.

 

[tzill]

I think both deals ended up being GREAT!!

Morris/Davis was a sal dump, and we actually got a good player in return (even if the Giants never got the benefit of him). Ignore Davis, and the sal dump alone was a GREAT trade.

Durham/Ford was also a sal dump (only about 1 mil all said, IIRC). Throw in the fact that this trade MAY have saved the 2010 regular season, and this is a no-brainer AMAZINGLY AMAZING trade.

Both trades are small trades at the time that actually had HUGE payoffs that the average fan likely never sees.

Well done Sabes.

Can't agree with you there, unless you consider "good" as essentially replacement level except for one year in Oakland.

 

[tzill]

Very good points. But I have to counter with: dumping Davis for nothing, and replacing him with an inferior player for 60 mil - whose continued presence might result in Ford being optioned back to Fresno in a couple of weeks.

I break it down this way:

1. Signing Morris -- bad
2. Dumping Morris for Davis -- good
3. Cutting Davis -- meh.
4. Signing DropADeuce -- horrible.

 

[gp956]

I break it down this way:

1. Signing Morris -- bad
2. Dumping Morris for Davis -- good
3. Cutting Davis -- meh.
4. Signing DropADeuce -- horrible.

I think cutting DropADeuce is in Sabean's best interest. Every time I see him squat at the plate, or throw one of his screwballs from the outfield, it leaves me with negative feelings towards Sabean.

 

[calsnowskier]

Can't agree with you there, unless you consider "good" as essentially replacement level except for one year in Oakland.

I am not claiming he was an all-star, so I wont get into where on the scale Rajai belongs. I liked his speed and defense (he always reminded me of DLew), but the Giants obviously thought that other players were more deserving of the 40-spot.

Good for the I's, I guess...

 

[msgkings322]

I think cutting DropADeuce is in Sabean's best interest. Every time I see him squat at the plate, or throw one of his screwballs from the outfield, it leaves me with negative feelings towards Sabean.

Perhaps, but it might not be in his interest to go to his bosses and say "Yeah, I'd like to flush close to $30 million of your money down the toilet to fix a mistake I myself made."

 

[tzill]

Perhaps, but it might not be in his interest to go to his bosses and say "Yeah, I'd like to flush close to $30 million of your money down the toilet to fix a mistake I myself made."

It is a quandry...at least with Zeets, he can put it on MadCowan. RoRo is all his. Then again, he can always stare at his ring.

 

[calsnowskier]

Perhaps, but it might not be in his interest to go to his bosses and say "Yeah, I'd like to flush close to $30 million of your money down the toilet to fix a mistake I myself made."

It isnt like this is a hidden issue that he has to fess up about, though.

This was a KNOWN error at the time that he signed his new contract, and at the time that his option was picked up.

If he bought a van for the catering department that ended up breaking down, he would not force the caterers to continue to use that van even though it no longer moved. They would accept that it was a bad purchase and move on.

 

[gp956]

Perhaps, but it might not be in his interest to go to his bosses and say "Yeah, I'd like to flush close to $30 million of your money down the toilet to fix a mistake I myself made."

I don't know....The money is already wasted, if I'm writing the checks, do I really need to be reminded of this fact every time I see him play?

 

[tzill]

It isnt like this is a hidden issue that he has to fess up about, though.

This was a KNOWN error at the time that he signed his new contract, and at the time that his option was picked up.

If he bought a van for the catering department that ended up breaking down, he would not force the caterers to continue to use that van even though it no longer moved. They would accept that it was a bad purchase and move on.

I'm not remembering any option. I thought it was a five year contract with no options.

 

[calsnowskier]

I'm not remembering any option. I thought it was a five year contract with no options.

I am referring to Sabean's option, not RoRo's.

 

[tzill]

I am referring to Sabean's option, not RoRo's.

Ahhh...that makes much more sense.

 

[calsnowskier]

Ahhh...that makes much more sense.

Sorry, maybe I should have used a bigger font, you know, 99 and all...