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History Comp - George Brett v Wade Boggs

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  • George Brett

    Votes: 20 83.3%

  • Wade Boggs

    Votes: 4 16.7%
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According to the stats you gave i would take Wade Boggs... the OPS+ and oWAR are too close that they are practically a wash... But it says Boggs was the far superior defender... far superior...

So i would take Boggs... But let me go and do my own analysis maybe I will change my mind since i hate WAR and all adjusted statistics...
 
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In my own analysis i would pick Boggs as well...

Since neither of them were really known to be HR hitters or speed demons, and their biggest offensive attribute was BA and OBP... Boggs had the significant better OBP... Which tells me that Boggs was the better offensive Player...

If players are not spectacular at other aspects of the game, i would always rather have the player strongest at their strength... And Boggs was far superior to brett at their strengths...
 
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This is easy for me, George Brett is one of my all time favorite baseball players. Love the way he played the game, he was as passionate and intense as any man to ever put on a uniform.
 
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I would guess most who choose Boggs are the ones who didn't watch the careers of these guys. People who saw them play their entire careers will pick George Brett all day everyday. Boggs was a great hitter,great ballplayer but he was no George Brett.
 
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It's George Brett by a country mile.

I don't think Boggs should have been put in the HOF.
 
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Loneranger said:
I would guess most who choose Boggs are the ones who didn't watch the careers of these guys. People who saw them play their entire careers will pick George Brett all day everyday. Boggs was a great hitter,great ballplayer but he was no George Brett.
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That is such a silly comment... The EYE TEST can only do so much... and it gets skewed by personal preferences... If I like a player, then my eye is going to like a player... At the end of the day when you look at who had the better career, it is a numbers game... And Boggs has better overall statistics IMO...
 
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George Brett had a better pine tar meltdown.

Vote goes to Brett.
 
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StanMarsh51 said:
His offense really lags behind Boggs/Brett/Chipper for me to put him in front of them.
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And Schmidt, of course... who should be everyone's #1....


I put "All-time" in the poll just becasue I intend to do a few of these comparisons and I was going to call them the all-time comparisons.... But, maybe I'll change it... And, I hope I'm not the only one to start these threads...

I am trying to pick players with simliar career stats, to get some baseball discussions going...
 
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StanMarsh51 said:
His offense really lags behind Boggs/Brett/Chipper for me to put him in front of them.
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Brooks was by far the better D player for sure and from what I know, he lit up opposing pitchers like a pinball machine in the post season as far as hitting goes.

I would still put Robinson on my post season play clubs before ANY of those mentioned above Stan.:suds:


BTW... Brooks Robinson "hit into 4 career triple plays" during his career...OUCH!
 
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mrwallace2ku said:
Brooks was by far the better D player for sure and from what I know, he lit up like a pinball machine in the post season as far as hitting goes.

I would still put Robinson on my post season play clubs before ANY of those mentioned above Stan.:suds:


BTW... Brooks Robinson "hit into 4 career triple plays" during his career...OUCH!
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He was the best defensively, but defense isn't valued as much as hitting. A player for example who's a 10 on offense and 5 on defense is generally more valuable/better than a player who's a 5 on offense and 10 on defense.


And he hit .303 with a .785 OPS in the playoffs, which is good, but let's not make him out to be of the caliber of someone like Beltran in the playoffs, or even George Brett, who hit .337 with a 1.023 OPS in the playoffs. Brett had twice as many playoff HR (10 to 5) in just 4 more games.
 
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StanMarsh51 said:
His offense really lags behind Boggs/Brett/Chipper for me to put him in front of them.
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I am thinking i would probably take CHipper over Boggs and Brett... But i think it is very close...
 
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MilkSpiller22 said:
That is such a silly comment... The EYE TEST can only do so much... and it gets skewed by personal preferences... If I like a player, then my eye is going to like a player... At the end of the day when you look at who had the better career, it is a numbers game... And Boggs has better overall statistics IMO...
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Boggs' problem is how badly he dropped off around his 30th birthday party. He had a fantastic peak but for much of his career he was basically an average player who played an offensive position.
 
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Lemon Harang Pie said:
Boggs' problem is how badly he dropped off around his 30th birthday party. He had a fantastic peak but for much of his career he was basically an average player who played an offensive position.
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Look at his stats again, you would want to retract this claim... Brett had 11 seasons hitting .300 or better, Boggs had 15 seasons...
 
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Boggs had 11 seasons with .400 OBP or higher compared to Bretts 3 seasons...
 
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Lemon Harang Pie said:
Boggs' problem is how badly he dropped off around his 30th birthday party. He had a fantastic peak but for much of his career he was basically an average player who played an offensive position.
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Then again, he did so much in the first half of his career that he didn't need to do too much to have a HOF caliber career.

If you break his career into two segments: up to age 32 and after age 32...

Up to 32 - .352/.443/.480, 150 OPS+
After 32 - .304/.387/.407, 112 OPS+


I don't see how you don't think he's a HOFer...he had a 90 WAR, 131 OPS+. 400+ OBP
 
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