Griffin Injury Updates

[Stymietee]

At this point the job is still firmly in the hands of RGIII. Why? Because.. KC has, at this point, played his way out of it. Logically, RGIII had been tagged with the franchise QB label, the ONLY way that changes is if KC or someone else supplants him from the position. Does ANYONE here truly believe that KC or CM has done that?


There is still time for KC, however, I'm afraid that at this point he's becoming a bit shell shocked. Let's see if his head is right in the coming games. The clock is ticking.

 

[martinez]

does two good games and one bad mean that we can completely write off kirk? this board changes so drastically week to week.

 

[Sleepy T]

does two good games and one bad mean that we can completely write off kirk? this board changes so drastically week to week.

KC will have at least a couple of games, probably 3 or 4... to prove he can be the man. If he gets 5 or 6 games and don't get it done, then he missed his opportunity and that's on him.

 

[skinsdad62]

i think it is way to early to write KC off . a 4th rounder after 6 career starts and we "know" what he is ?

that is foolishness

but by the same token he isnt the savior deanpet pretends he is

it is waaaaaaay too early to make proclamations about either qb

KC get get a firm hold of this job , or head to it, with a win vs seatle then last week will be in the rear view again

 

[SoCalWizFan]

i think it is way to early to write KC off . a 4th rounder after 6 career starts and we "know" what he is ?

that is foolishness

but by the same token he isnt the savior deanpet pretends he is

it is waaaaaaay too early to make proclamations about either qb

KC get get a firm hold of this job , or head to it, with a win vs seatle then last week will be in the rear view again

Absolutely. Just write it off to being fans & being emotional. Once most folks cool down they will agree with you. Consider the case of Alex Smith. I am pretty sure that most folks wanted to run him out of the NFL early in his career. However - over time he evolved into being a very good -perhaps not great but not bad - QB.

Again - this all comes down to patience. Not being patient for 3-4 years & accepting whatever crap comes our way. However - patience to the pt where fans wait for most of the season before making judgements on either Cousins or RG3. Since most of us have had to suffer through this for a very long time this is not very easy.

 

[skinz2winz]

Certain posters change from week to week. Anyone who knows a damn thing about football can see the upside with Griffin. Cap't Kirk is what he is, a QB who belongs in the pocket, looks comfortable there (at times) but has a tendency to turn the football over a little too much. He makes a reliable backup and spot starter when needed. Can and will Kirk improve? I believe the answer is yes. Can and will Griffin improve? I believe the answer is yes. Griffin is our starter once healthy. It's not even a question imo.

 

[Stymietee]

Absolutely. Just write it off to being fans & being emotional. Once most folks cool down they will agree with you. Consider the case of Alex Smith. I am pretty sure that most folks wanted to run him out of the NFL early in his career. However - over time he evolved into being a very good -perhaps not great but not bad - QB.

Again - this all comes down to patience. Not being patient for 3-4 years & accepting whatever crap comes our way. However - patience to the pt where fans wait for most of the season before making judgements on either Cousins or RG3. Since most of us have had to suffer through this for a very long time this is not very easy.

Certain posters change from week to week. Anyone who knows a damn thing about football can see the upside with Griffin. Cap't Kirk is what he is, a QB who belongs in the pocket, looks comfortable there (at times) but has a tendency to turn the football over a little too much. He makes a reliable backup and spot starter when needed. Can and will Kirk improve? I believe the answer is yes. Can and will Griffin improve? I believe the answer is yes. Griffin is our starter once healthy. It's not even a question imo.

Whatever we do, let's not compare this situation to the one that A. Smith finds himself in. A. Smith is Less the QB and more the manager of his team because the team is built in that manner. Here we can not be sure what this team is built for. RGIII is the type of player that you use a the centerpiece and build around him. K. Cousins is more the A. Smith type, unfortunately, this team is constructed in a manner not consistent with the skillset of Griffith nor with the management skills of KC.

Think of it this way. There is going to be a footrace, so a short distance sprinter enters (RGIII) also entering the race is a long distance runner (KC). As they line up the owner of the track declares that it will be a mid-distance run (440) with hurdles. A race good for KC in that he can manage himself for the distance and good for RGIII because technically it is still a sprint. The problem for them both is that in addition to it not being their specialty, there still remains the question of those pesky hurdles!!

 

[skinsdad62]

Whatever we do, let's not compare this situation to the one that A. Smith finds himself in. A. Smith is Less the QB and more the manager of his team because the team is built in that manner. Here we can not be sure what this team is built for. RGIII is the type of player that you use a the centerpiece and build around him. K. Cousins is more the A. Smith type, unfortunately, this team is constructed in a manner not consistent with the skillset of Griffith nor with the management skills of KC.

Think of it this way. There is going to be a footrace, so a short distance sprinter enters (RGIII) also entering the race is a long distance runner (KC). As they line up the owner of the track declares that it will be a mid-distance run (440) with hurdles. A race good for KC in that he can manage himself for the distance and good for RGIII because technically it is still a sprint. The problem for them both is that in addition to it not being their specialty, there still remains the question of those pesky hurdles!!

KC and smith are much the same . they succeed when they make the right reads at pre snap and know what the defense is doing to them and they know what the offense calls for

when KC makes the right pre snap reads he is on fire if not he is rex

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Gruden: No timetable for RG3’s return. #Redskins Gruden: No timetable for Griffin's return | Comcast SportsNet Washington #RedskinsTalk

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Whatever we do, let's not compare this situation to the one that A. Smith finds himself in. A. Smith is Less the QB and more the manager of his team because the team is built in that manner. Here we can not be sure what this team is built for. RGIII is the type of player that you use a the centerpiece and build around him. K. Cousins is more the A. Smith type, unfortunately, this team is constructed in a manner not consistent with the skillset of Griffith nor with the management skills of KC.

Think of it this way. There is going to be a footrace, so a short distance sprinter enters (RGIII) also entering the race is a long distance runner (KC). As they line up the owner of the track declares that it will be a mid-distance run (440) with hurdles. A race good for KC in that he can manage himself for the distance and good for RGIII because technically it is still a sprint. The problem for them both is that in addition to it not being their specialty, there still remains the question of those pesky hurdles!!

I wouldn't be so sure of that especially since we have only seen a very small sample from RG3 in this offense. You have to consider that Gruden is new to head coaching & this team. Given some time he may start to realize that he has made some mistakes in his approach. The idea that one particular offense works with any personnel doesn't seem right & over time he may realize this.

I believe that Gruden, RG3 & others learned a major lesson on Mon in terms of how an offense could be run by RG3. You don't have to stay in the pocket at all times. Rather - you mix it up but do it in a smart and safe manner. Wilson appears to be the master in that regard. Given some time all parties might reach a compromise & use an offense that is best for their personnel. Same perhaps if Cousins remains the starter.

BTW - who is Griffith? Kidding.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Rg3 doing some agility work http://twitter.com/john_keim/status/520260978164764672/photo/1

 

[skinz2winz]

I wouldn't be so sure of that especially since we have only seen a very small sample from RG3 in this offense. You have to consider that Gruden is new to head coaching & this team. Given some time he may start to realize that he has made some mistakes in his approach. The idea that one particular offense works with any personnel doesn't seem right & over time he may realize this.

I believe that Gruden, RG3 & others learned a major lesson on Mon in terms of how an offense could be run by RG3. You don't have to stay in the pocket at all times. Rather - you mix it up but do it in a smart and safe manner. Wilson appears to be the master in that regard. Given some time all parties might reach a compromise & use an offense that is best for their personnel. Same perhaps if Cousins remains the starter.

BTW - who is Griffith? Kidding.

I was thinking Darrell Bevelle was/is the master myself...

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I was thinking Darrell Bevelle was/is the master myself...

I was talking primarily in terms of when the QB scrambles & exactly what he does to complete the run. You can coach that all you like - it won't work unless you have the right QB. Wilson is excellent at getting out-of-bounds at the right time, sliding & throwing the ball on the run. You have to think that RG3 is capable of the same but who knows if he will ever get there (or get close enough where he minimizes his risk of injury).

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Sun 10/19 Titans pre game warm up

Tarik -

Griffin still wearing a hard brace on left ankle.


Rich Tandler -

RG3 on the field practicing dropbacks, sprintouts, taking off an running. Not under watch of trainer as far as I can tell. #Redskins

Of course, this RG3 workout is with no pads and no danger of added stress on the ankle due to being tackled by a 300-lb. DE.