Good/great forgotten players of yesteryear

[Cedrique]

Actually, that was proven false. (I wouldn't want you having to pay some asshole's tab for having misinformation)

What?????? Say it ain't so!

 

[tducey]

Luis Tiant was a good pitcher back in the day. I'd have him at the bottom of my rotation on my all time Red Sox team.

 

[broncosmitty]

Luis Tiant was a good pitcher back in the day. I'd have him at the bottom of my rotation on my all time Red Sox team.

Lefty
Rocket
Pedro
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Tiant


Babe Ruth? Joe Wood?

 

[navamind]

Luis Tiant was a good pitcher back in the day. I'd have him at the bottom of my rotation on my all time Red Sox team.

Cy Young

Could sub Tiant with Lester.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Luis Tiant was a good pitcher back in the day. I'd have him at the bottom of my rotation on my all time Red Sox team.

Omar says he is a second baseman, not a pitcher. Omar knows everything and is a French model.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Yankees Bobby Murcer
Red Sox Bobby Doerr
Orioles Mike Cuellar
Blue Jays Dave Stieb
Rays Scott Kazmir
Tigers Rusty Staub
Royals Frank White
White Sox Rich Allen
Twins Zoilo Versalles
Indians Len Barker for 1 day in 1981
Angels Mike Witt
A's Frank Baker
Astros Mike Scott
Mariners Mark Langston
Rangers Jeff Burroughs
Nationals/Expos Steve Rogers
Braves Darrell Evans
Mets Mookie Wilson
Phillies Bob Allison
Marlins Jeff Conine
Pirates Harvey Haddix
Cubs Billy Williams
Cardinals Willie McGee
Reds Dave Concepcion
Brewers Richie Zisk
Dodgers Davey Lopes
Giants Jim Ray Hart
Diamondbacks Steve Finley
Rockies Ellis Burks
Padres Nate Colbert


Some of those teams it is hard to come up with a player that is not in the HOF, but was still good and kinda forgotten.

 

[DragonfromTO]

Chet Lemon is a guy that comes to mind. He is probably neither young enough nor great enough to be known by the casual young fan, but he was a very fine CF for a number of years.

Chet Lemon Stats | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[DragonfromTO]

Yankees Bobby Murcer
Red Sox Bobby Doerr
Orioles Mike Cuellar
Blue Jays Dave Stieb
Rays Scott Kazmir
Tigers Rusty Staub
Royals Frank White
White Sox Rich Allen
Twins Zoilo Versalles
Indians Len Barker for 1 day in 1981
Angels Mike Witt
A's Frank Baker
Astros Mike Scott
Mariners Mark Langston
Rangers Jeff Burroughs
Nationals/Expos Steve Rogers
Braves Darrell Evans
Mets Mookie Wilson
Phillies Bob Allison
Marlins Jeff Conine
Pirates Harvey Haddix
Cubs Billy Williams
Cardinals Willie McGee
Reds Dave Concepcion
Brewers Richie Zisk
Dodgers Davey Lopes
Giants Jim Ray Hart
Diamondbacks Steve Finley
Rockies Ellis Burks
Padres Nate Colbert


Some of those teams it is hard to come up with a player that is not in the HOF, but was still good and kinda forgotten.

Not bad, although there are some pretty big names (and 3 HoFers) on this list. Also, Richie Zisk was never a Brewer. Sixto Lezcano or Don Money instead maybe?

 

[navamind]

Yankees Bobby Murcer
Red Sox Bobby Doerr
Orioles Mike Cuellar
Blue Jays Dave Stieb
Rays Scott Kazmir
Tigers Rusty Staub
Royals Frank White
White Sox Rich Allen
Twins Zoilo Versalles
Indians Len Barker for 1 day in 1981
Angels Mike Witt
A's Frank Baker
Astros Mike Scott
Mariners Mark Langston
Rangers Jeff Burroughs
Nationals/Expos Steve Rogers
Braves Darrell Evans
Mets Mookie Wilson
Phillies Bob Allison
Marlins Jeff Conine
Pirates Harvey Haddix
Cubs Billy Williams
Cardinals Willie McGee
Reds Dave Concepcion
Brewers Richie Zisk
Dodgers Davey Lopes
Giants Jim Ray Hart
Diamondbacks Steve Finley
Rockies Ellis Burks
Padres Nate Colbert


Some of those teams it is hard to come up with a player that is not in the HOF, but was still good and kinda forgotten.

ehh, I'd go with someone else for the Red Sox (maybe John Valentin?). He was a really good player for a while and he had a pretty decent case for being the best player in the AL in 1995. Never made an All-Star game, but he had over 30 career WAR.

John Valentin Stats | Baseball-Reference.com

 

[obxyankeefan]

Not bad, although there are some pretty big names (and 3 HoFers) on this list. Also, Richie Zisk was never a Brewer. Sixto Lezcano or Don Money instead maybe?

I meant Gorman Thomas, I always got those two mixed up.

 

[Cedrique]

Yankees Bobby Murcer
Red Sox Bobby Doerr
Orioles Mike Cuellar
Blue Jays Dave Stieb
Rays Scott Kazmir
Tigers Rusty Staub
Royals Frank White
White Sox Rich Allen
Twins Zoilo Versalles
Indians Len Barker for 1 day in 1981
Angels Mike Witt
A's Frank Baker
Astros Mike Scott
Mariners Mark Langston
Rangers Jeff Burroughs
Nationals/Expos Steve Rogers
Braves Darrell Evans
Mets Mookie Wilson
Phillies Bob Allison
Marlins Jeff Conine
Pirates Harvey Haddix
Cubs Billy Williams
Cardinals Willie McGee
Reds Dave Concepcion
Brewers Richie Zisk
Dodgers Davey Lopes
Giants Jim Ray Hart
Diamondbacks Steve Finley
Rockies Ellis Burks
Padres Nate Colbert


Some of those teams it is hard to come up with a player that is not in the HOF, but was still good and kinda forgotten.

Billy Williams is a good one. He was obviously a well respected player because of the All Star appearances, MVP votes and induction into the Hall of Fame but you rarely hear people talk about him, unless he is on some list of players that achieved some hitting record.
Also, I can't believe Nate Colbert has been mentioned twice in the last few days

 

[navamind]

I'd also throw Mark Ellis in this thread even though he's a pretty recent player. Like Valentin, another player that never got any hardware, but he was probably one of the best defensive players of my lifetime and his 92 OPS+ was pretty solid for a 2B. 33.4 career WAR. Who'd think that he ranks ahead of Adam Dunn and Paul Konerko in WAR?

 

[obxyankeefan]

Billy Williams is a good one. He was obviously a well respected player because of the All Star appearances, MVP votes and induction into the Hall of Fame but you rarely hear people talk about him, unless he is on some list of players that achieved some hitting record.
Also, I can't believe Nate Colbert has been mentioned twice in the last few days

Showing my age, but he was one of my favorite players as a kid.

@DragonfromTO says I left three HOFers in my list. I am guessing Doerr, billy Williams and Frank Baker.

 

[broncosmitty]

Chet Lemon is a guy that comes to mind. He is probably neither young enough nor great enough to be known by the casual young fan, but he was a very fine CF for a number of years.

Chet Lemon Stats | Baseball-Reference.com

One glove, his entire career.

He's an even better instructor than he was player. Long list of MLB dudes who've learned from Chester.

Swear I was at a game as a kid when he got a walk off hit by pitch in the head. But I've never found evidence that it actually happened.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Try to update it

Yankees Bobby Murcer
Red Sox John Valentin
Orioles Mike Cuellar
Blue Jays Dave Stieb
Rays Scott Kazmir
Tigers Jason Thompson
Royals Frank White
White Sox Rich Allen
Twins Zoilo Versalles
Indians Len Barker for 1 day in 1981
Angels Mike Witt
A's Joe Rudi
Astros Mike Scott
Mariners Mark Langston
Rangers Jeff Burroughs
Nationals/Expos Steve Rogers
Braves Darrell Evans
Mets Mookie Wilson
Phillies Von Hayes
Marlins Jeff Conine
Pirates Harvey Haddix
Cubs Rick Sutcliffe
Cardinals Willie McGee
Reds Dave Concepcion
Brewers Gorman Thomas
Dodgers Davey Lopes
Giants Jim Ray Hart
Diamondbacks Steve Finley
Rockies Ellis Burks
Padres Nate Colbert

 

[DragonfromTO]

Showing my age, but he was one of my favorite players as a kid.

@DragonfromTO says I left three HOFers in my list. I am guessing Doerr, billy Williams and Frank Baker.

You got all three

 

[obxyankeefan]

You got all three

I can't remember everyone that is in there and screw it up at times.

 

[Cedrique]

Showing my age, but he was one of my favorite players as a kid.

@DragonfromTO says I left three HOFers in my list. I am guessing Doerr, billy Williams and Frank Baker.

Yeah, I interpreted the question to mean guys that were famous during their playing days but not talked about much now compared to other players from their time period. Even though Williams is in the Hall of Fame he is still not talked about as much as players like Bob Gibson or Frank Robinson or other players from his era.

 

[Cedrique]

I wanted to have a thread of players that were good or even great, but kind of have been forgotten due to the time passage. I am not necessarily talking about "underrated" players who aren't appreciated enough or in the HOF or something. I am asking more so for players who were good but not well known. When you think of underrated players, you might think of Bobby Grich or Mike Mussina. The fact that many people regard the two as underrated might indicate that they are still well known despite the perception that they aren't valued high enough.

I am also not asking for great players either. For example, one might say that Lou Gehrig isn't talked about a lot today and therefore is "forgotten," but that's not the application of the word that I am using.

Players who belong in this thread are more so good or very good or maybe even great, but aren't well known to casual or even invested fans.

You can write a little about the player. I'll go first.

Larry Doyle was a second baseman who played for the Giants and Cubs from 1907-1920. He was the NL MVP in 1912 and NL MVP in 1915. He had a career slash line of .290/.357/.408, good for a 126 wRC+. He was the roommate of Christy Mathewson for a number of years in the bigs, and was the team captain and top everyday star on three consecutive pennant winners (1911–13) with the New York Giants.

 

[Cedrique]

I forgot to mention, do you realize that Lou Gehrig actually died of Lou Gehrig's disease? How crazy is that?