Going back and forth

[SteelersPride]

u know I should have seen the signs about mark Ingram last year. I
mean who didn't see them signing a a scat back in spiller, and Ingram having a career year in catches

 

[SteelersPride]

People should have seen the warning signs going in about Anderson. And Denver's recent history showed they had not been able to maintain back to back consistency by the same back. Lacy? That was a fluke because of two things, his weight gain and Nelson being hurt. Freeman was supposed to be good in 2014 he just didn't get the carries. He was one year late. Martin had success written all over him due to QB and a better OC.

But last year was one of those years where the best offenses like GB, NE, Indy, Denver all got injury-riddled. And Dallas. That is not likely to happen two years in a row. But Denver's elite days are over. GB, Indy, NE are among the powerhouse teams among the NFL. This was not just about RBs too, but that everyone is a risk. But I tend to believe that a consistent winning team's players who are detrimental to their success is the way to go. If there's another team besides Denver that falls off, I am thinking Arizona, Cincinatti, or Pittsburgh.

Now with that said, I have a possible plan of stacking. I may go WR heavy early or RB heavy. I will go four straight RBs(or four in five depending when the qb run happens) or three straight WRs to start. If I draft Bell first, I'm going to have to support him with other early RBs. I could also go WR first and RB next three or four picks(or four of five). Or RB and WR next three(or three of four).

so u may draft a Rb, we, the, or a qb early. got it . phew I can sleep easier now

 

[Brees#1]

Ok. Good luck. I have no idea what you mean.

Ask MJD how his Jags teams did when he was elite. Look at results that happen every single year for good players on bad teams. You are cherry picking things and stating them as a blanket fact.

First off I did not bring up non-elite teams. And MJD actually was disappointing in 08 and 10. I still remember his 30 yards at Houston in 08 keeping me from making the playoffs in a throwaway ESPN league. But this was about taking players on good teams to minimize risk. I don't know what I really meant there, I guess I meant I would take players that got hurt last year because there's too much recent history of studs bouncing back. And since most of those players were on elite teams, I guess it derived from there.

 

[Brees#1]

u know I should have seen the signs about mark Ingram last year. I
mean who didn't see them signing a a scat back in spiller, and Ingram having a career year in catches

Ingram gets hurt every year. I certainly was preparing for that which was why I held on to Spiller and was always trying to get better at RB being aggressive at getting DWill, Allen. I was never comfortable with Ingram as my only decent back behind Gurley. I also had Gore, but he was inconsistent.

 

[TKOSpikes]

First off I did not bring up non-elite teams. And MJD actually was disappointing in 08 and 10. I still remember his 30 yards at Houston in 08 keeping me from making the playoffs in a throwaway ESPN league. But this was about taking players on good teams to minimize risk. I don't know what I really meant there, I guess I meant I would take players that got hurt last year because there's too much recent history of studs bouncing back. And since most of those players were on elite teams, I guess it derived from there.

You brought up the fact your avoiding players on bad offenses. I bring up one (of the many) examples where a 4-12 team can produce 1st round fantasy talent.


........and instead of saying, yeah, there are exceptions to the rule, you bring up one time a player cost you in week 13 one year. Please tell me who these players are that we should be drafting that NEVER have a bad game?

Man o man.

 

[TREFF]

You brought up the fact your avoiding players on bad offenses. I bring up one (of the many) examples where a 4-12 team can produce 1st round fantasy talent.


........and instead of saying, yeah, there are exceptions to the rule, you bring up one time a player cost you in week 13 one year. Please tell me who these players are that we should be drafting that NEVER have a bad game?

Man o man.

Quantas, Quantas never crashed

 

[Brees#1]

You brought up the fact your avoiding players on bad offenses. I bring up one (of the many) examples where a 4-12 team can produce 1st round fantasy talent.


........and instead of saying, yeah, there are exceptions to the rule, you bring up one time a player cost you in week 13 one year. Please tell me who these players are that we should be drafting that NEVER have a bad game?

Man o man.

All I said was I was avoiding them to MINIMIZE injury risk. Look it's pointless because that's actually not my plan now it's stacking.

 

[SteelersPride]

All I said was I was avoiding them to MINIMIZE injury risk. Look it's pointless because that's actually not my plan now it's stacking.

stacking TE right

 

[averagejoe]

Quantas, Quantas never crashed

Treff, this response had to be your best work ever.
Outside of being our Commish, of course.

 

[TKOSpikes]

Treff, this response had to be your best work ever.
Outside of being our Commish, of course.

I agree! Maybe best post ever, period! Doesn't hurt that it's my favorite movie.

 

[Stomp]

now it's stacking

What team are you planning on stacking players from?

 

[Brees#1]

I meant position stacking. Like I can draft WRs the first three picks then just get a number of RBs before round 11. If I don't get Fleener it's not important to draft TE until later. Or I can go RB early then draft a number of receivers.

 

[Brees#1]

I'm testing out the mixed BPA approach among those two positions and if necessary, TE and QB.

 

[SteelersPride]

mixed BPA, jesus

 

[Stomp]

mixed BPA, jesus

 

[Brees#1]

I'm testing out the mixed BPA approach among those two positions and if necessary, TE and QB.

mixed BPA, jesus

Mixed BPA means picking the BPA of what's available between those two positions. Like for instance Bell is the next best RB behind the top four to me. Ahead of Lacy and Charles, at least in round 2. In round 1 Charles is ahead of Bell. But if Nelson and Robinson is gone when I pick in round 2 the pick is between Bell at RB and Dez at WR. I'm more likely going to take Bell.

So let me just give a early illustration of my preferred chart method
Top ten RBs
1.Gurley 2.AP 3.Elliot 4.Johnson 5.Charles 6.Bell 7.Lacy 8.McCoy 9.Miller 10.Feeman
Top ten WRs
1.Brown 2.ODB 3.Jones 4.Green 5.Hopkins 6.Nelson 7.Robinson 8.Dez 9.Allen 10.Evans

Gurley vs.Brown.........Gurley
AP vs Brown...............Brown
AP vs ODB..................debatable
AP vs Jones................AP
ODB vs Elliot...............ODB
Elliot vs Jones.............Elliot
Johnson vs Jones.......Jones
Johnson vs Green......Green
Johnson vs Hopkins...Hopkins
Johnson vs Nelson.....Johnson
Charles vs Nelson......Nelson
Charles vs Robinson..Charles
Robinson vs Bell.........Robinson
Bell vs Dez.................Bell
Lacy vs Dez................Lacy
McCoy vs Dez.............McCoy
Miller vs Dez...............Dez
Miller vs Allen.............Allen
Miller vs Evans...........Miller
Freeman vs Evans....Freeman

The last three players I do not plan to touch due to their questionable performance and situations.

1.Gurley
2.Brown
3.AP/ODB
4.AP/ODB
5.Elliot
6.Jones
7.Green
8.Hopkins
9.Johnson
10.Nelson
11.Charles
12.Robinson
13.Bell
14.Lacy
15.McCoy
16.Dez
17.Allen

 

[TKOSpikes]

I'm testing out the mixed BPA approach among those two positions and if necessary, TE and QB.


Mixed BPA means picking the BPA of what's available between those two positions. Like for instance Bell is the next best RB behind the top four to me. Ahead of Lacy and Charles, at least in round 2. In round 1 Charles is ahead of Bell. But if Nelson and Robinson is gone when I pick in round 2 the pick is between Bell at RB and Dez at WR. I'm more likely going to take Bell.

So let me just give a early illustration of my preferred chart method
Top ten RBs
1.Gurley 2.AP 3.Elliot 4.Johnson 5.Charles 6.Bell 7.Lacy 8.McCoy 9.Miller 10.Feeman
Top ten WRs
1.Brown 2.ODB 3.Jones 4.Green 5.Hopkins 6.Nelson 7.Robinson 8.Dez 9.Allen 10.Evans

Gurley vs.Brown.........Gurley
AP vs Brown...............Brown
AP vs ODB..................debatable
AP vs Jones................AP
ODB vs Elliot...............ODB
Elliot vs Jones.............Elliot
Johnson vs Jones.......Jones
Johnson vs Green......Green
Johnson vs Hopkins...Hopkins
Johnson vs Nelson.....Johnson
Charles vs Nelson......Nelson
Charles vs Robinson..Charles
Robinson vs Bell.........Robinson
Bell vs Dez.................Bell
Lacy vs Dez................Lacy
McCoy vs Dez.............McCoy
Miller vs Dez...............Dez
Miller vs Allen.............Allen
Miller vs Evans...........Miller
Freeman vs Evans....Freeman

The last three players I do not plan to touch due to their questionable performance and situations.

1.Gurley
2.Brown
3.AP/ODB
4.AP/ODB
5.Elliot
6.Jones
7.Green
8.Hopkins
9.Johnson
10.Nelson
11.Charles
12.Robinson
13.Bell
14.Lacy
15.McCoy
16.Dez
17.Allen

See? Don't you like that better than saying "I'm going WR/WR/WR/QB/RB/TE/RB"?

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

LOL... so glad I unblocked this guy just to read his threads

This is good entertainment.

 

[Sam Sportboy]

Okay I understand what you mean by certain rounds, you are talking about players that fall in drafts. That happens but usually only a few. But the odds that Eddie Lacy will be there in the third round is not likely or Keenan Allen falling in the fourth round. Can you tell me how your drafts are going and what you are getting where? Personally I think your draft ideas are complicating. You are acting like overrated players will fall in the draft. History shows overrated players tend to be drafted where they are or higher, it's always a better player falling than the other way around.

I think either you people are implying to zag with everyone else or zig when they zag.

Dude, I'm not done reading this thread yet but I'll give you my 2 cents right now. Rank yer players. Go off yer rankings. Do not say who, what or when yer gonna draft specific peeps or positions. Let the draft come to you. If yer drafting in the 8 spot and Antonio Brown falls to you, you should take him. Without hesitation. There should be no thought to it at all. But if you have a RB slotted for that spot, it's already time to change gears. Shit, if you draft 4 RB's or WR's in a row because they were the best value to your team, then so be it, but you will have to make up for it in the next few rounds. That's all I have.

 

[Sam Sportboy]

First off I did not bring up non-elite teams. And MJD actually was disappointing in 08 and 10. I still remember his 30 yards at Houston in 08 keeping me from making the playoffs in a throwaway ESPN league. But this was about taking players on good teams to minimize risk. I don't know what I really meant there, I guess I meant I would take players that got hurt last year because there's too much recent history of studs bouncing back. And since most of those players were on elite teams, I guess it derived from there.

That bastard cost me a Super Bowl win with that stupid 80 yard TD run against the Pats when everybody thought he was down and just let him run..................