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I'm not sure what to do with my first pick. It's not as cut and dry as I thought it would be. RB or WR will be a hard first choice. And second choice as well should I choose the opposite of round 1. Round 3 I am committed to WR and that may be the BPA and round 4 it is either RB, WR, or QB. I don't know how much I will wait if any on QB. I have decided that if I don't get the cards I will just go for Philadelphia or NYJ to stream week 1. I'm also wondering if maybe I should take Eiffert again, go for Fleener, or wait on Ertz and Miller for TE.

This is how hard it will be for round 1, 2, 4, and 7.

Also, picking early seems to be a detriment. Picking late first, early second is ideal to me.
 

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I'm getting deja vu.
 

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I'm not sure what to do with my first pick. It's not as cut and dry as I thought it would be. RB or WR will be a hard first choice. And second choice as well should I choose the opposite of round 1. Round 3 I am committed to WR and that may be the BPA and round 4 it is either RB, WR, or QB. I don't know how much I will wait if any on QB. I have decided that if I don't get the cards I will just go for Philadelphia or NYJ to stream week 1. I'm also wondering if maybe I should take Eiffert again, go for Fleener, or wait on Ertz and Miller for TE.

This is how hard it will be for round 1, 2, 4, and 7.

Also, picking early seems to be a detriment. Picking late first, early second is ideal to me.
Draft a kicker. Very high floor.:D
 

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How is it the same stuff? Before I said I was going RB, Bell, but I really don't know. My draft is not planned as much as people think. The later rounds are planned yes but not the early rounds. It's just I have limited taste because of so many untrustworthy players.
 

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How is it the same stuff? Before I said I was going RB, Bell, but I really don't know. My draft is not planned as much as people think. The later rounds are planned yes but not the early rounds. It's just I have limited taste because of so many untrustworthy players.
You can trust kickers.:nod:
 

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dear god........
1) we have for over a year told you to NOT pre determine who you are drafting or what position your drafting. because you cant predict what will happen in a draft. Yet you continue to state how in round 3 your definitely taking a wr. or in round 7 your taking coby fleener. its like talking to a wall

2) the same players your concerned about, we explain the pros and cons to you in numerous threads, yet, still same question
 

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On a serious note, lot of risk picks this year. No avoiding risk.
 

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Here's a good philosophy for you....

Round 1 - no QB, K or DST
Round 2 - no QB, K or DST
Round 3 - no TE, K or DST (I would add QB here for me, but I'm aware of your thin line)
Round 4 - no TE, K or DST
Round 5 - no TE, K or DST
Round 6 - no TE, K or DST
Round 7 - no K or DST
Round 8 - no K or DST
Round 9 - no K or DST
Round 10 - no K or DST
Round 11 and beyond...... give er

The only positional philosophy I follow
 

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Okay I understand what you mean by certain rounds, you are talking about players that fall in drafts. That happens but usually only a few. But the odds that Eddie Lacy will be there in the third round is not likely or Keenan Allen falling in the fourth round. Can you tell me how your drafts are going and what you are getting where? Personally I think your draft ideas are complicating. You are acting like overrated players will fall in the draft. History shows overrated players tend to be drafted where they are or higher, it's always a better player falling than the other way around.

I think either you people are implying to zag with everyone else or zig when they zag.
 

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Okay I understand what you mean by certain rounds, you are talking about players that fall in drafts. That happens but usually only a few. But the odds that Eddie Lacy will be there in the third round is not likely or Keenan Allen falling in the fourth round. Can you tell me how your drafts are going and what you are getting where? Personally I think your draft ideas are complicating. You are acting like overrated players will fall in the draft. History shows overrated players tend to be drafted where they are or higher, it's always a better player falling than the other way around.

I think either you people are implying to zag with everyone else or zig when they zag.

The only drafts I've done recently are dynasty. Other than our suicide league here back in May.

In the first round, if you don't want Gronk, then yes, you are going to draft a RB/WR. But that pick does not effect Rounds 2 and 3.

You have to ask yourself, do you feel more comfortable with a stud WR or a stud RB. Rounds 2 and 3, while they have stud potential can and do get outproduced by later round players.... all the time. So again, you ask yourself, who do I feel more comfortable with now, and later. If you like the Melvin Gordons of the world, then you're probably more inclined to get WR earlier. If you like the Locketts and Moncriefs of the world, you're more likely to get RB early.

But saying round 3 is definitely a WR or round 6 is definitely a TE, doesn't get you anywhere.

My personal belief is to use the tier system. Make your own tiers, then when your pick is up, decide which guy in which tier should be taken now and which can maybe come back to you next round... sometimes it will work out, sometimes not.

Also...why bother even thinking about anything unless you have your draft position?
 

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But if on good teams, too much risk is minimized.
Are you sure about that?

Doug Martin was on a bad team (6-10 record). Martin finished 3rd in scoring.
Devonta Freeman was on a bad team (8-8). Freeman finished 1st in scoring.
Eddie Lacy was on a good team (10-6) . Finished 27th in scoring.
CJ Anderson was on a Super Bowl winning team (12-4). Finished 31st.
 

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Are you sure about that?

Doug Martin was on a bad team (6-10 record). Martin finished 3rd in scoring.
Devonta Freeman was on a bad team (8-8). Freeman finished 1st in scoring.
Eddie Lacy was on a good team (10-6) . Finished 27th in scoring.
CJ Anderson was on a Super Bowl winning team (12-4). Finished 31st.

People should have seen the warning signs going in about Anderson. And Denver's recent history showed they had not been able to maintain back to back consistency by the same back. Lacy? That was a fluke because of two things, his weight gain and Nelson being hurt. Freeman was supposed to be good in 2014 he just didn't get the carries. He was one year late. Martin had success written all over him due to QB and a better OC.

But last year was one of those years where the best offenses like GB, NE, Indy, Denver all got injury-riddled. And Dallas. That is not likely to happen two years in a row. But Denver's elite days are over. GB, Indy, NE are among the powerhouse teams among the NFL. This was not just about RBs too, but that everyone is a risk. But I tend to believe that a consistent winning team's players who are detrimental to their success is the way to go. If there's another team besides Denver that falls off, I am thinking Arizona, Cincinatti, or Pittsburgh.

Now with that said, I have a possible plan of stacking. I may go WR heavy early or RB heavy. I will go four straight RBs(or four in five depending when the qb run happens) or three straight WRs to start. If I draft Bell first, I'm going to have to support him with other early RBs. I could also go WR first and RB next three or four picks(or four of five). Or RB and WR next three(or three of four).
 

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People should have seen the warning signs going in about Anderson. And Denver's recent history showed they had not been able to maintain back to back consistency by the same back. Lacy? That was a fluke because of two things, his weight gain and Nelson being hurt. Freeman was supposed to be good in 2014 he just didn't get the carries. He was one year late. Martin had success written all over him due to QB and a better OC.

But last year was one of those years where the best offenses like GB, NE, Indy, Denver all got injury-riddled. And Dallas. That is not likely to happen two years in a row. But Denver's elite days are over. GB, Indy, NE are among the powerhouse teams among the NFL. This was not just about RBs too, but that everyone is a risk. But I tend to believe that a consistent winning team's players who are detrimental to their success is the way to go. If there's another team besides Denver that falls off, I am thinking Arizona, Cincinatti, or Pittsburgh.

Now with that said, I have a possible plan of stacking. I may go WR heavy early or RB heavy. I will go four straight RBs(or four in five depending when the qb run happens) or three straight WRs to start. If I draft Bell first, I'm going to have to support him with other early RBs. I could also go WR first and RB next three or four picks(or four of five). Or RB and WR next three(or three of four).

Ok. Good luck. I have no idea what you mean.

Ask MJD how his Jags teams did when he was elite. Look at results that happen every single year for good players on bad teams. You are cherry picking things and stating them as a blanket fact.
 
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