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FZ out; Posey new President of Baseball Opperations

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I would be concerned that he is bringing industrial secrets with him to the doggies, but then I look at our organization and realize we have absolutely nothing the doggies could use.

FZ did a hell of a job sabotaging us. HOF level sabotage right there.

They are saying it is some of the best sabotage they have ever seen. Beautiful sabotage, actually. The most beautiful sabotage you have ever seen.
They call him Mr Saboteur, which is sad when you think about it. Crazy Mr Saboteur.
 

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I always considered him a plant, and now his is going back and the dodgers will pay him well for what he did to us. Damn bastard
 

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I would be concerned that he is bringing industrial secrets with him to the doggies, but then I look at our organization and realize we have absolutely nothing the doggies could use.

FZ did a hell of a job sabotaging us. HOF level sabotage right there.

They are saying it is some of the best sabotage they have ever seen. Beautiful sabotage, actually. The most beautiful sabotage you have ever seen.
Hugely big sabotage.

He was with the Dodgers all along. They just deferred his signing until today.
 

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Obviously, I meant it as a joke, but when a joke makes THAT much logical sense, it is hard to decide whether you should laugh or cry.
 

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While I agree with rhe overall concept of sabotage it's hard for me to see it actually happeing without the ownership group being aware of it. This team has been in idle mode for almosr a decade now. That's not all on FZs shoulders alone. IMHO ... FZ was only a part of this decade long decline ...
 

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While I agree with rhe overall concept of sabotage it's hard for me to see it actually happeing without the ownership group being aware of it. This team has been in idle mode for almosr a decade now. That's not all on FZs shoulders alone. IMHO ... FZ was only a part of this decade long decline ...
He was brought in, primarily, to address the farm system. He inherited a farm system that was generally viewed as bottom third in all of baseball. He left with the farm generally regarded as the absolute worst in the game. All the while putting crap product on the field at the MLB level.

No one has ever accused the guy of being an idiot, so how is it possible he displayed such wide spread incompetence at every aspect of his job?

I don’t SERIOUSLY believe he was a plant or a saboteur. No more than I believe CollettI was a saboteur for us planted in the doggie front office. But if either of them WERE saboteurs, it would be difficult for either to have done their jobs better.
 

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It is very well possible he wasn’t an intentional plant, but inside he was a dodger and that was his guiding force. Since it is well known the dodgers are evil then he was demon possessed. Again damn bastard.
 

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He was brought in, primarily, to address the farm system. He inherited a farm system that was generally viewed as bottom third in all of baseball. He left with the farm generally regarded as the absolute worst in the game. All the while putting crap product on the field at the MLB level.

No one has ever accused the guy of being an idiot, so how is it possible he displayed such wide spread incompetence at every aspect of his job?

I don’t SERIOUSLY believe he was a plant or a saboteur. No more than I believe CollettI was a saboteur for us planted in the doggie front office. But if either of them WERE saboteurs, it would be difficult for either to have done their jobs better.
It all depends on what you are looking at and what you actually believe .. when FZ came over in November of 2018 MLB had our farm system ranked at the 27th position. We were ... as you stated ...pretty bad ...

But ... at the end of the 2021 season our farm system was ranked at the 11th position. The optics show a real good progression. They also refer to Bart, Ramos, Bishop and Luciano as the leverage behind the ranking. So ... three years in we moved up 16 notches.

But over the next 3 years we went into a complete free fall.... guess that^s what happens when 3 of the 4 candidates mentioned fail to make the grade and there is nothing in the hopper to replace then ...
 

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It all depends on what you are looking at and what you actually believe .. when FZ came over in November of 2018 MLB had our farm system ranked at the 27th position. We were ... as you stated ...pretty bad ...

But ... at the end of the 2021 season our farm system was ranked at the 11th position. The optics show a real good progression. They also refer to Bart, Ramos, Bishop and Luciano as the leverage behind the ranking. So ... three years in we moved up 16 notches.

But over the next 3 years we went into a complete free fall.... guess that^s what happens when 3 of the 4 candidates mentioned fail to make the grade and there is nothing in the hopper to replace then ...
Of the 4 you mentioned, though, only Bishop was FZs. And he ended up being an absolute EPIC fail of all-time proportions.
 
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