Fred Davis suspended indefinitely w/o pay

[gkekoa]

Everything is addictive.


I love how some of you are saying that you have had a joint but aren't addicted like that makes the substance non-addictive.


I have had alcohol. I am not addicted. Does that make alcohol non-addictive?


The fact is the most reputable science groups in America have stated the negative affects of weed.


The logical conclusion is weed is addictive considering people have thrown away multi-million dollar careers because they couldn't stop puffing.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Everything is addictive.


I love how some of you are saying that you have had a joint but aren't addicted like that makes the substance non-addictive.


I have had alcohol. I am not addicted. Does that make alcohol non-addictive?


The fact is the most reputable science groups in America have stated the negative affects of weed.


The logical conclusion is weed is addictive considering people have thrown away multi-million dollar careers because they couldn't stop puffing.

You may be correct about pot being addictive. However - the negative effects of weed vs. tobacco and alcohol don't even come close! The negative effects of the latter are huge in terms of $$, deaths, injuries, etc. They have ruined and ended many more lives than pot has - not even close.

 

[j_y19]

Everything is addictive.


I love how some of you are saying that you have had a joint but aren't addicted like that makes the substance non-addictive.


I have had alcohol. I am not addicted. Does that make alcohol non-addictive?


The fact is the most reputable science groups in America have stated the negative affects of weed.


The logical conclusion is weed is addictive considering people have thrown away multi-million dollar careers because they couldn't stop puffing.

GK, my point is that those same people that can't stop puffing are the same ones that could just as easily have addictions to other vices such as alcohol, sex, food or gambling. Food is a good example. To some, they are addicted. Yet to most, we aren't. Its more a function, at least with weed and alcohol, of your personality trait. Some substances, such as tobacco and harder drugs, are absolutely addictive to any that uses for an extended period. In my experience, weed doesn't fall into that category. And I speak from experience.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

BTW - the even bigger dumbass in this one is Cerrato. That draft class now looks really horrible.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

BTW - why does the article on ESPN say "Redskins Tight End Fred Davis"? I thought that he was a free agent and no longer on the Skins roster.

 

[Sleepy T]

I can say the same as you guys, used to smoke often. But I have a good job and a family that depends on me now. That changes everything. If I could, I would still be doing it. If or when it is legal, I'll be standing in line with the 75% of the general public.

Addiction to me is something that physically or psychologically makes you want that drug or substance. Something that causes a withdrawal if you don't get that substance. Organic drugs (Marijuana and Psilocybin/Schrooms) do not fall in that category.

Don't make excuses for Davis, he's a dumbass..

 

[j_y19]

I can say the same as you guys, used to smoke often. But I have a good job and a family that depends on me now. That changes everything. If I could, I would still be doing it. If or when it is legal, I'll be standing in line with the 75% of the general public.

Addiction to me is something that physically or psychologically makes you want that drug or substance. Something that causes a withdrawal if you don't get that substance. Organic drugs (Marijuana and Psilocybin/Schrooms) do not fall in that category.

Don't make excuses for Davis, he's a dumbass..

Bingo.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

How did this thread devolve into a discussion about weed when it started as a discussion about Davis' suspension which didn't even involve weed? Too funny.

 

[gkekoa]

Addiction is not an excuse. He didn't have somebody force the first joint in his mouth just like nobody forces somebody to drink.


Food is different...you have to eat to survive.

 

[j_y19]

Addiction is not an excuse. He didn't have somebody force the first joint in his mouth just like nobody forces somebody to drink.


Food is different...you have to eat to survive.

There are plenty of people that use food as a stimulant. They go way beyond eating what you need to survive. They are addicted to food. Is food addictive or is it their personality?

 

[martinez]

apparently we all have a different definition of addiction therefore arguing about this is pointless.

 

[smackdaddy]

There are plenty of people that use food as a stimulant. They go way beyond eating what you need to survive. They are addicted to food. Is food addictive or their personality?

Food, sleep and water are addictive nessessities, but to answer your question... they are pigs. Basking in their own pork gravy on the gluttony sea of chocolate malts and soda pop. Im addicted to sweets. I dont have to eat it, but I want it, so therefore I do. Addiction is anything in excess. Anything other than sleep, food and water is an addiction waiting to happen. I dont have to jerk off but I do. Addiction.

 

[Sharkinva]

Smack... I beg to differ. Studies have shown that after a certain amount of time without release, a man starts to exhibit negative psychological traits. Now if you do it every day three times a day... you might have a problem there.

 

[skinsdad62]

Weed is not physically addictive in any way.

It is only "habit-forming" if you have a disgustingly addictive personality. I have stopped countless times for various reasons and never once had any issue with wanting or "needing" to smoke until the reason to not smoke was done. You have to be a special kind of stupid to allow weed to affect your life negatively in any way.

well that applies to you JDM , but another person can easily become addicted . like i said i am not addicted to alcohol but people are addicted to it

drugs affect people in different ways . i may get sleepy when i use codiene for a tooth ache but you may not feel a thing , like my wife

 

[skinsdad62]

I can say the same as you guys, used to smoke often. But I have a good job and a family that depends on me now. That changes everything. If I could, I would still be doing it. If or when it is legal, I'll be standing in line with the 75% of the general public.

Addiction to me is something that physically or psychologically makes you want that drug or substance. Something that causes a withdrawal if you don't get that substance. Organic drugs (Marijuana and Psilocybin/Schrooms) do not fall in that category.

Don't make excuses for Davis, he's a dumbass..

VT , saying you would be with 75% of the public to buy weed is one thing . i am not anti weed . i would use it too

saying if it is addictive is another . 2 different things there

and comparing which is more addictive is stupid ? that isnt the question . the question is is it addictive ? it wasnt , which is more ? you didnt do that VT in the post i quoted but i wanted to address that too

 

[Sleepy T]

Well I didn't really intend on getting into a psychology discussion, but since we are , I looked it up. I stand corrected Dad.

Cannabis dependence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Studies show that cannabis can be addictive. But it less addictive than caffeine.

Now I am sorry if I offend you coffee addicts (I drink plenty too), but if quitting something gives you a little headache or makes you a little pissy, then you need to be a little more strong mentally. I guess you can be addicted to just about anything. Anything that makes you "irritable" if you don't get your way. To me a physical assiction and a psychogicak addiction ahould't even be discussed in the same sentence. People always want make excuses for their actions, and in many cases... There is no excuse.

 

[JDM]

well that applies to you JDM , but another person can easily become addicted . like i said i am not addicted to alcohol but people are addicted to it

drugs affect people in different ways . i may get sleepy when i use codiene for a tooth ache but you may not feel a thing , like my wife

The physical addiction part isn't debatable. It does not exist.

Literally anything can be habit forming (mentally addictive). You can be that type of "addicted" to TV, to books, to sports (although in many cases physical activity has physically addictive characteristics as well), and to anything else. Don't blame the medium; blame the person. Allowing anything to control your life is on you. Doing so with a substance that does not have any physically addictive characteristics is even more so.

 

[gkekoa]

The physical addiction part isn't debatable. It does not exist.

Literally anything can be habit forming (mentally addictive). You can be that type of "addicted" to TV, to books, to sports (although in many cases physical activity has physically addictive characteristics as well), and to anything else. Don't blame the medium; blame the person. Allowing anything to control your life is on you. Doing so with a substance that does not have any physically addictive characteristics is even more so.

So is alcohol physically addictive? How about other drugs?
What makes them physically addictive?

 

[JDM]

Yes, and many others, yes. Physical addiction is a change in how your body functions such that stopping results in some kind of ill effects. Withdrawal symptoms are the sign that something is physically addictive. Alcohol is hard to become physically addicted to but there are withdrawal symptoms if you are a severe enough alcoholic. Things like coke or crack (and cigarettes and caffeine, for the record) are physically addictive and result in withdrawal symptoms. Marijuana is not and does not.

 

[gkekoa]

Yes, and many others, yes. Physical addiction is a change in how your body functions such that stopping results in some kind of ill effects. Withdrawal symptoms are the sign that something is physically addictive. Alcohol is hard to become physically addicted to but there are withdrawal symptoms if you are a severe enough alcoholic. Things like coke or crack (and cigarettes and caffeine, for the record) are physically addictive and result in withdrawal symptoms. Marijuana is not and does not.

Well according to the following sites, it is addictive then:

Is marijuana addictive? | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)

"Marijuana addiction is also linked to a withdrawal syndrome similar to that of nicotine withdrawal, which can make it hard to quit. People trying to quit report irritability, sleeping difficulties, craving, and anxiety. They also show increased aggression on psychological tests, peaking approximately 1 week after they last used the drug."

Is Marijuana Addictive? | Psychology Today

"Unlike other substances, pot has very few severe withdrawal symptoms and most people can quit rather easily. When present, withdrawal symptoms might include: anxiety, depression, nausea, sleep disturbances and GI problems."

Marijuana Addiction

"Another trait of marijuana addiction is the physical craving that comes when the body adapts to the drug and begins to develop a tolerance to it. Anyone who has been smoking marijuana for awhile can tell that they must smoke more now to feel the same effect that just a few hits used to produce. It's not about the quality of the weed, it's the bodies defense mechanism as it readjusts to keep balance with the frequent supply of new chemicals being delivered by the pot."

"Consequences of marijuana addiction start to take toll when the user continues to use marijuana even in the event of health or social consequences. Memory and learning problems may be causing problems at work or even result in losing a job because of high absenteeism. Increasing isolation from friends and family often puts heavy strain on relationships with loved ones. There is a vicious cycle to marijuana addiction in which these problems are often used as a rational to smoke even more pot. A trap that many fall into is that the drug that is causing the problem becomes the solution to the problem it caused."