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One thing that went unoticed due to the tie and Smith concussion is how explosive Frank Gore looked. Not only the TD run but on many of his carries he was hitting the hole like a young fresh Gore. If we can keep him fresh like this it doesn't need to be said how big an impact he could have late in the season.
 
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Supposedly he was banged up after the game. But he should be fine to play. Gotta keep him fresh. Wonder if Jacobs or James gets playing time soon.
 

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Supposedly he was banged up after the game. But he should be fine to play. Gotta keep him fresh. Wonder if Jacobs or James gets playing time soon.

The whole Jacobs issue is fastly becoming a WTF situation for me. Did we honestly contract this guy to polish the pine all season???
 

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The whole Jacobs issue is fastly becoming a WTF situation for me. Did we honestly contract this guy to polish the pine all season???

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. And the fact that James and Jenkins have not dressed for any game is strange to me. Maybe one of these guys can be a spark.
 

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Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. And the fact that James and Jenkins have not dressed for any game is strange to me. Maybe one of these guys can be a spark.

Yeah! Exactly! I mean, what is going on here? Was Jacobs more injured than initial reports when we signed him - I don't know, I don't get it. Strange.
 

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it speaks to depth? I mean for LMJ, who's he going to come in for? Take hunter out? Dixon?

Jenkins just can't sniff an opportunity with Crabtree, MM, Moss, KW and Ginn....
 

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It does speak to depth. But I wouldn't mind seeing Brandon Jacobs in on 4th and 1 instead of smashing our quarterbacks head into the defensive lineman.
 
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Gore played extra hard and his body took a punishment. He was really giving his all trying to win. Multiple times he tried to just blast through guys.
 

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Not using Jacobs is perplexing to me as well.

I would rather reduce Gores carries and have him fresh in the playoffs then work him now and rack up the nagging injuries that diminish his effectiveness.
 

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Yeah, who knows what is going on with Jacobs, LMJ, and Jenkins. I guess they are saving Jacobs for a late season push and playoff push. With LMJ and Jenkins, I guess the depth is just letting the 49ers keep them off the field.
 

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for me, not worrying about Jacobs, LMJ, nor Jenkins right now. yes, did expect Jenkins to play a few snaps by now, but can't worry about it.

have no reason to think the Coaches aren't making the best decisions they can. if it means these guys have to wait, so be it. if we don't make the play-offs, it won't be because these three guys haven't played.
 

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As weird as it seems, Ginn is probably the guy keeping Jenkins inactive. Since the team wastes a WR spot with a return specialist. Also Kyle Williams is borderline contributing more to the return game than the receiving corps too... although thats only cause our QBs miss him when he's open. So that is almost arguably 2 WR spots taken up by return guys for the gameday actives.
 

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As weird as it seems, Ginn is probably the guy keeping Jenkins inactive. Since the team wastes a WR spot with a return specialist. Also Kyle Williams is borderline contributing more to the return game than the receiving corps too... although thats only cause our QBs miss him when he's open. So that is almost arguably 2 WR spots taken up by return guys for the gameday actives.

At this point I am over Ginn. Is he really so great at returns that he deserves a roster spot keeping a guy who might actually be able to catch the ball? I think that the gap between him and Williams in the return game is pretty small if even at all anymore. He hasn't been that great this year. In kick returns he is barely averaging over 23yds, and punt returns he is on pace with last year (12.3) only with less big plays. Williams is averaging more yards in both (27.5/13) It isn't much better but I think it is good enough to take over the job and free up the roster spot.

What does it say about Jenkins if he can't take the spot from a guy like Ginn?
 

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At this point I am over Ginn. Is he really so great at returns that he deserves a roster spot keeping a guy who might actually be able to catch the ball? I think that the gap between him and Williams in the return game is pretty small if even at all anymore. He hasn't been that great this year. In kick returns he is barely averaging over 23yds, and punt returns he is on pace with last year (12.3) only with less big plays. Williams is averaging more yards in both (27.5/13) It isn't much better but I think it is good enough to take over the job and free up the roster spot.

What does it say about Jenkins if he can't take the spot from a guy like Ginn?

Nothing bad about Jenkins as a WR in my opinion. I don't believe the issue is Jenkins can't beat out Ginn as a WR, I think it is that Jenkins value as a WR on a team that hasn't really used Moss or Manningham to their best ability is less than Ginn's value as a returner.

I'm over Ginn too, I was only OK with the 49ers keeping him around as a return specialist because they also added Moss, Manningham, and Jenkins... but, now he isn't getting TDs and his value as a returner is keeping our #1 draft pick inactive. Next year, I hope they don't re-sign him and just let Williams or LMJ handle returns.
 

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If/when Kapernick becomes a starter we will see more of LMJ and Jenkins. LMJ and Kapernick worked well together in the preseason. And Jenkins style would fit well with Kapernick. I think both these guys were drafted more for an impact in the future when/if Kapernick takes over instead of being brought in as an immediate impact. I am excited to see what they can do though; I hope to get them on the field soon. More excited to see LMJ though
 

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At this point I am over Ginn. Is he really so great at returns that he deserves a roster spot keeping a guy who might actually be able to catch the ball? I think that the gap between him and Williams in the return game is pretty small if even at all anymore. He hasn't been that great this year. In kick returns he is barely averaging over 23yds, and punt returns he is on pace with last year (12.3) only with less big plays. Williams is averaging more yards in both (27.5/13) It isn't much better but I think it is good enough to take over the job and free up the roster spot.

What does it say about Jenkins if he can't take the spot from a guy like Ginn?

but returning isn't only about how many return yards you get? we of all fans should know from last year's NFC Championship game. first you have to make a good decision whether you're going to field or fair catch? then you have to secure the ball upon pending impact.

if the Coaches are ok with Williams NOW, i'm fine with him returning punts. but then who would be his 'dependable' back up? if we don't have to use a 'rookie' returner, then why choose to do it?

regarding "can't take the spot......", Jenkins might be just as good if not better than Ginn as a WR? but right NOW we're more than fine at WR with these other veterans. whereas we shouldn't go into the play-offs with only one dependable return man.
 

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but returning isn't only about how many return yards you get? we of all fans should know from last year's NFC Championship game. first you have to make a good decision whether you're going to field or fair catch? then you have to secure the ball upon pending impact.

if the Coaches are ok with Williams NOW, i'm fine with him returning punts. but then who would be his 'dependable' back up? if we don't have to use a 'rookie' returner, then why choose to do it?

regarding "can't take the spot......", Jenkins might be just as good if not better than Ginn as a WR? but right NOW we're more than fine at WR with these other veterans. whereas we shouldn't go into the play-offs with only one dependable return man.

I know the return game is more than just yards, but those are the only stats I could find. Aside from 1 punt in the Championship game Williams has been fine with the decision making. The fumble in overtime was just a good play by the Giants and I am not gonna blame Williams for that. As far as his back up I am not sure who they would use. I know LMJ is a rookie, but some rookies come in and really do well in the return game. Being a rookie doesn't always mean he will not make the right call.

I know we are fine at WR right now, but I think it is weird that the guy picked in the first round isn't even dressing for these games. WR is a position where most guys don't make a big impact their first year, but to get snaps is still really important. We are basically saying that next year will be his rookie year. If that is the case I think it is a wasted pick. We could have picked a WR next year at the same value and made a pick this year who could contribute right away. Unless Jenkins was thought of as a can't miss/special player but if that was the case he would already be playing.
 

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I know the return game is more than just yards, but those are the only stats I could find. Aside from 1 punt in the Championship game Williams has been fine with the decision making. The fumble in overtime was just a good play by the Giants and I am not gonna blame Williams for that. As far as his back up I am not sure who they would use. I know LMJ is a rookie, but some rookies come in and really do well in the return game. Being a rookie doesn't always mean he will not make the right call.

I know we are fine at WR right now, but I think it is weird that the guy picked in the first round isn't even dressing for these games. WR is a position where most guys don't make a big impact their first year, but to get snaps is still really important. We are basically saying that next year will be his rookie year. If that is the case I think it is a wasted pick. We could have picked a WR next year at the same value and made a pick this year who could contribute right away. Unless Jenkins was thought of as a can't miss/special player but if that was the case he would already be playing.

so for the back up in the return game, we'll just find out IF someone else can do it? we'll place a proven return guy (Ginn) on inactive, and try others out in real games? we'll throw Jenkins or LMJ back there and find out what happens?

you're admitting rookie WR's don't usually make an impact, you're admitting we have good veteran WR's ahead of Jenkins, yet simultaneously feel Jenkins isn't playing and hence a wasted pick. does this make sense to you? so if we suit up Jenkins and give him two reps a game, then all of a sudden Jenkins is a good pick?
 

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so for the back up in the return game, we'll just find out IF someone else can do it? we'll place a proven return guy (Ginn) on inactive, and try others out in real games? we'll throw Jenkins or LMJ back there and find out what happens?

I am assuming that on a roster of 53 players more than 2 guys are capable of returning kicks. We have used Delanie Walker and Kendall Hunter before so we aren't just sticking anybody back there... and this is IF Williams gets hurt or something so he can't do it. And I never said to have Jenkins do it. I know LMJ is listed as KR/PR/RB so I will again assume he can do it.

[/QUOTE]you're admitting rookie WR's don't usually make an impact, you're admitting we have good veteran WR's ahead of Jenkins, yet simultaneously feel Jenkins isn't playing and hence a wasted pick. does this make sense to you? so if we suit up Jenkins and give him two reps a game, then all of a sudden Jenkins is a good pick?[/QUOTE]

I am saying that unless the guy is a can't miss draft pick at WR, why draft him if he isn't even going to suit up? We could have drafted someone who would at least be able to play. Didn't have to be a wide out. I think that the pick was a waste. We could have found the same value next year at the WR position if we needed it. Like I said before... if he was viewed as a "can't miss" then he would be playing right now and playing a lot. Even if he was raw.
 
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