Enrollment Requirements

[hokiecheme11]

I'm just curious, what sort of requirements do we have for admission to Tech for athletes? I know there is always some wiggle room, but I'm just curious if we have cut offs for the SAT or anything.

And what exactly are the NCAA requirements? I know we require an extra math class or something above those.

 

[757Hokie83]

i was doing some searching, couldnt find anything....but i did find the enrollment requirements for SEC athletes.

 

[HokieGhost]

Take a look at the information provided by the NCAA: NCAA Eligibility Requirements - High School Portal

Not too confusing, is it??

Here's the Eligibility Rules in PDF format: NCAA Eligibility Rules

Like you said, I believe Tech requires an extra science class as part of the entry requirements. From what I've read over the years, I believe that class can be either taken online or in the classroom.

 

[NickVT10]

i was doing some searching, couldnt find anything....but i did find the enrollment requirements for SEC athletes.

That made me bust out laughing in a crowded room.

 

[HokieGhost]

i was doing some searching, couldnt find anything....but i did find the enrollment requirements for SEC athletes.

They get three chances to get the correct solution, but if they get pissed and break the box they get to play defense.

 

[ACC_HOKIES]

NCAA

4 years of English
3 years of math (Algebra 1 or higher)
2 years of natural or physical science (including one year of lab science if offered by your high school)
1 extra year of English, math, or natural or physical science
2 years of social science
4 years of extra core courses from any category above, or foreign language, nondoctrinal/comparative religion/philosophy

Virginia Tech

4 units of English
3 units of math (includes algebra I, geometry, and algebra II)
2 units of laboratory science (chosen from biology, chemistry or physics)
2 units of social science (one must be history)
3 additional academic units (foreign language is highly recommended)
4 elective units

 

[Fetti]

Additionally, there is also a sliding scale requirement for SAT/ACT scores and GPA.

For example, with a 3.5 or higher GPA athletes are only required to score a 420 or higher on the SAT.

An athlete with a 2.5 has to score an 820 on the SAT to be eligible for Division 1 athletics.

This is often the biggest obstacle for athletes having trouble qualifying, more so than credits. (All SAT scores are verbal & math only).

 

[Cobrabit]

How the hell do you get a 420 on the SAT as a combined score!? You would seriously have to question the ethics of that school system that graduated a student that got a 3.5+ GPA and only scored that high on the SAT. I know this evidently happens often, but I have never heard of anyone scoring anywhere close to that.

Just looked up averages for 2011 Freshman at VT:

Average GPA: 4.00
Mid-50% GPA: 3.81–4.24

Average SAT: 1250
Mid-50% SAT*: 1160–1340

I've never agreed with the exceptions that athletes receive. College football/basketball is nothing more than a minor league system.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

Are we sure that isn't a 1420 and 1820 combined?

420 seems insanely low.

Also, there is no way I would have gotten into VT with the current standards, ha ha.

 

[HokieGhost]

Are we sure that isn't a 1420 and 1820 combined?

420 seems insanely low.

Also, there is no way I would have gotten into VT with the current standards, ha ha.

Here's the sliding scale for the years 2011-2012. Obviously, any student-athlete generating a GPA of 3.550 and above will most certainly score much higher than the required minimum for the SAT and ACT on the sliding scale below.

Division I Core GPA and Test Score Sliding Scale
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Core GPA-SAT-ACT
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3.550 & above 400 37
3.525 410 38
3.500 420 39
3.475 430 40
3.450 440 41
3.425 450 41
3.400 460 42
3.375 470 42
3.350 480 43
3.325 490 44
3.300 500 44
3.275 510 45
3.250 520 46
3.225 530 46
3.200 540 47
3.175 550 47
3.150 560 48
3.125 570 49
3.100 580 49
3.075 590 50
3.050 600 50
3.025 610 51
3.000 620 52
2.975 630 52
2.950 640 53
2.925 650 53
2.900 660 54
2.875 670 55
2.850 680 56
2.825 690 56
2.800 700 57
2.775 710 58
2.750 720 59
2.725 730 59
2.700 730 60
2.675 740-750 61
2.650 760 62
2.625 770 63
2.600 780 64
2.575 790 65
2.550 800 66
2.525 810 67
2.500 820 68
2.475 830 69
2.450 840-850 70
2.425 860 70
2.400 860 71
2.375 870 72
2.350 880 73
2.325 890 74
2.300 900 75
2.275 910 76
2.250 920 77
2.225 930 78
2.200 940 79
2.175 950 80
2.150 960 80
2.125 960 81
2.100 970 82
2.075 980 83
2.050 990 84
2.025 1000 85
2.000 1010 86

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

That is on the new combined 2400 point scale!!!!!!!

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

Isn't the highest score on the ACT a 36? These numbers seem really odd to me.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

Also, I see where you guys are getting this, it just confuses me.

I get the sliding SAT score thing, but the ACT has a max score of 36.

I did not take the ACT, so I have no idea.

 

[HokieGhost]

Also, I see where you guys are getting this, it just confuses me.

I get the sliding SAT score thing, but the ACT has a max score of 36.

I did not take the ACT, so I have no idea.

Yep...I looked it up...36 is the best you can score on the ACT.

National Ranks for Test Scores and Composite Score

Maybe the NCAA is using the Composite Score column for their purposes? That would make a weird sort of sense...maybe.

 

[Fetti]

The "official" score reported by the ACT, is a composite score in which they average the score for each of the 4 sections (math, english, science, and i think reading). The max score in each section is 36, so when they average them the highest composite score would be 36.

For NCAA purposes, they use the sum of the scores of the 4 sections.

 

[HokieGhost]

The "official" score reported by the ACT, is a composite score in which they average the score for each of the 4 sections (math, english, science, and i think reading). The max score in each section is 36, so when they average them the highest composite score would be 36.

For NCAA purposes, they use the sum of the scores of the 4 sections.

Okay...that explains it very well! Thanks!

 

[MarkOU]

Reguardless of the requirments you will always have that Dexter Manely

Academic performance has always been difficult for the NCAA to address. Any detailed regulation would intrude upon the free choice of widely varying schools, and any academic standard broad enough to fit both MIT and Ole Miss would have little force. From time to time, a scandal will expose extreme lapses. In 1989, Dexter Manley, by then the famous “Secretary of Defense” for the NFL’s Washington Redskins, teared up before the U.S. Senate Subcommittee on Education, Arts, and Humanities, when admitting that he had been functionally illiterate in college. Link

LoL that was Oklahoma State, but yeah its shady how the system works. I'm not in favor of paying players but I certianly think the NCAA needs to allow these kids transfers with no restrictions.

 

[wildturkey]

Wait, 4.0 is the AVERAGE GPA at Tech now? That's getting ridiculous. High schools need to scale it back with the weighted courses.

 

[Fetti]

Okay...that explains it very well! Thanks!

No problem. Their reasoning behind the ACT scoring is beyond me. The sliding scale I think is a good model because it allows students who have put in the effort to do well weekly in school to still be admitted if they are poor test takers.

The only reason I know the in-and-outs of the NCAA clearing house is because of relationships with several athletes who struggled to qualify and/or didn't qualify. Mostly basketball players however. One actually is playing basketball in Europe now and flew his girlfriend over to propose to her on the basketball court just a few weeks ago. Great kid and a long overseas career ahead for him, just got in a hole he couldn't dig his way out of unfortunately.

 

[ACC_HOKIES]

Just looked up averages for 2011 Freshman at VT:

Average GPA: 4.00
Mid-50% GPA: 3.81–4.24

Average SAT: 1250
Mid-50% SAT*: 1160–1340

A decade ago I was accepted to Tech early with my aim on one of the most difficult majors. Today, I'd be dangerously close to the bottom 25%.

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