Dalton

[CrashDavisSports]

KC and Denver may wind up with the two best records in the AFC, but only one of them can wind up with a first round bye as the non-division winner is a wildcard even if they are 14-2.

So basically, Cincinnati is fighting with the Patroits and Colts for the other BYE.

Both have good teams, but I think the losses on defense for the Patriots along with a weak passing game right now is eventually going to catch up with the Patriots and they wind up lossing a few games.

Colts, they have a very good team also, but with the loss of Wayne and the rest of the playmakers on that offense being inconsistant, there is a chance we can out do them.

 

[cincygrad]

Oh yea, sorry i forgot nobody expect Cincy to do shit.

You're right one and done again.....nope no expectation to win the division or compete to go to the SB for the Bengals....you're 100% right the Bengals suck and nobody expects them to do anything...

is this ^^^ more what you were thinking i should have said?

Look around. What do folks typically say about the Bengals? Is it really any different than what you just said?

 

[mcro_rave_2001]

Look around. What do folks typically say about the Bengals? Is it really any different than what you just said?

yes, people expect them to win the division and expect them to compete for the SB, i know i do. There is no reason why they can't other than history/trend, and we all know that can be broken.

 

[kramer1]

13-3 with the other loss at the ravens.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

13-3 with the other loss at the ravens.

I think you let this win yesterday go to your head. You were saying we would be lucky to win 6 with this schedule.

 

[bengaldoug]

The Indianapolis game is probably for a bye, if we continue on the current roll. 12-4 should do it if we beat Indy. That won't be easy, even at home. Just ask the 49ers. We should also remember that Miami has a win over Indy, so we shouldn't assume this Thursday to be a walkover. I could easily see us laying an egg there.

 

[kramer1]

Miami is terrible. Stop it.

 

[cincygrad]

Most difficult games left:

San Diego -- Rivers is playing well and it's a west coast trip.

Indy -- Could be for a bye

@Ravens -- Best chance for Baltimore to make it a division race

@Miami -- Hate the short week.

Otherwise, I think we should feel good about the schedule. Pittsburgh can be difficult, but they might be way out of it by that point. Minny is a joke and I don't see Cleveland sweeping us. Split the four 'tough' match-ups and we end up 12-4.

 

[bengaldoug]

Miami is terrible. Stop it.

You had us losing to Miami before the season started.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Interesting stats from Grantland on Dalton and his improvement from years 1-2 and now into year 3.

Year Cmp% Yds/Att INT% TD:INT Passer Rating
2011 58.1% 6.6 2.5% 20:13 80.4
2012 62.3% 6.9 3.0% 27:16 87.4
2013 65.6% 8.1 2.5% 16:7 99.0

Dalton was completing 65.9 percent of his passes and averaging 7.7 yards per attempt heading into this game, so it's far from a one-game creation. And yes, Dalton is still benefiting from playing with A.J. Green, but he's playing better when he's not throwing to his star receiver. Green is averaging just more than 30 percent of the pass targets and receiving yardage, just as he did a year ago, but Dalton is doing much more with the other guys in the offense. During his rookie year, Dalton completed 58.6 percent of his passes to non-Green receivers; that rose to 63.7 percent last year and a whopping 70.2 percent this year. He's averaging 7.8 yards per attempt on those throws, well ahead of his 5.8 YPA figure from his rookie season or his 6.4 yards per attempt a year ago.

And after this past game, Dalton is now 4th most accurate on passes traveling 20 yards or more, completing over 50% of them, per PFF (saw this on twitter, I believe).

 

[Cincyfan78]

I don't like the short turnaround and traveling to Miami. Especially with injuries starting to mount up.

I'm actually not concerned with LT, as we all know Collins can do the job. But, surprisingly, ReyRey has played pretty well this year, and losing him could be a small blow to the defense. Hopefully Sanu and Mays (who has played well in the LB/CB role covering TE's) will be ok. With Jones playing so well, Sanu may not make much of an impact if he doesn't go, but Jones has also be dealing with a shoulder issue.

 

[Be Weary of Query]

Miami is terrible. Stop it.

Yep.

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/cincinnati-bengals/94353-dolphins-going-very-good.html

 

[DanBengalfan]

we always play like crap on the west coast, the loss to SD is almost 85% certain

Indy will exploit our defensive backs


we will likely split with the ravens, although the last game of the season can get screwy

11-5

 

[Servo]

You have to hand it to the guy.... He's still missing some of his long balls, but he seems way more aggressive than in past games. It was nice seeing him fire it into coverage a few times. He seems confident.

Let's hope it keeps up.

He's seeing the field and throwing the ball instead of aiming it. Not ready to give the guy an extension yet, but obviously feel way better about the QB position. He's making all the throws that many of us (myself included) said that he couldn't on a consistent basis. I think for the first time in his career he is playing at a very high level.

 

[DanBengalfan]

better than Jon Kitna

 

[futballiscool]

KC and Denver may wind up with the two best records in the AFC, but only one of them can wind up with a first round bye as the non-division winner is a wildcard even if they are 14-2.

So basically, Cincinnati is fighting with the Patroits and Colts for the other BYE.

Yes, but speaking strictly of the #1 seed (ie homefield throughout the playoffs) the fact that Denver and KC play each other twice is a huge advantage if the Bengals keep winning. Those are garaunteed losses for at least one of the teams. There's also the chance that they split and each get a loss.

The Bengals only have one conference loss, and a head to head win vs NE.

I know it's early, but the Bengals are in the race for the 1 seed, and have a really legitimate shot as long as they keep winning.

I'd much rather play the Chiefs, Broncos, or Colts at home than on the road.

It's early to get for that kind of thinking, but that should be the team's goal imo.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

Yep.

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/cincinnati-bengals/94353-dolphins-going-very-good.html

Geeze, you have patience to wade through that mess of topics to find that gem. Nice job. haha

 

[bengaldoug]

Interesting stats from Grantland on Dalton and his improvement from years 1-2 and now into year 3.

Year Cmp% Yds/Att INT% TD:INT Passer Rating
2011 58.1% 6.6 2.5% 20:13 80.4
2012 62.3% 6.9 3.0% 27:16 87.4
2013 65.6% 8.1 2.5% 16:7 99.0

Dalton was completing 65.9 percent of his passes and averaging 7.7 yards per attempt heading into this game, so it's far from a one-game creation. And yes, Dalton is still benefiting from playing with A.J. Green, but he's playing better when he's not throwing to his star receiver. Green is averaging just more than 30 percent of the pass targets and receiving yardage, just as he did a year ago, but Dalton is doing much more with the other guys in the offense. During his rookie year, Dalton completed 58.6 percent of his passes to non-Green receivers; that rose to 63.7 percent last year and a whopping 70.2 percent this year. He's averaging 7.8 yards per attempt on those throws, well ahead of his 5.8 YPA figure from his rookie season or his 6.4 yards per attempt a year ago.

And after this past game, Dalton is now 4th most accurate on passes traveling 20 yards or more, completing over 50% of them, per PFF (saw this on twitter, I believe).

The diffence between this year and last is astonishing. In 2012 he was 27th in downfield accuracy at only 32.8%, on 18 of 67 with four drops, only 4tds and 5 picks. So far this year he has 17 downfield completions in the first half, only one less than all last year. 17 of 37 with two drops, 51.4% accuracy ranking fourth. His 7 tds on downfield passes leads the NFL, and he has yet to throw an interception more than 20 yards downfield.

 

[CrashDavisSports]

The diffence between this year and last is astonishing. In 2012 he was 27th in downfield accuracy at only 32.8%, on 18 of 67 with four drops, only 4tds and 5 picks. So far this year he has 17 downfield completions in the first half, only one less than all last year. 17 of 37 with two drops, 51.4% accuracy ranking fourth. His 7 tds on downfield passes leads the NFL, and he has yet to throw an interception more than 20 yards downfield.

That means his WR's are doing a good job also in playing defender when it is under thrown.

Wow, you sure hav e done a 180 as of late about Dalton.

You do remember he had a great 4 game stretch last year in the middle of teh season too, don't you?

Expect some crap games once in a while still. Dalton is not stink proof by any means.

Even keel my friend. Good, bad, indifferent, just let the median be the norm regardless of the performance.

 

[cincygrad]

That means his WR's are doing a good job also in playing defender when it is under thrown.

Wow, you sure hav e done a 180 as of late about Dalton.

You do remember he had a great 4 game stretch last year in the middle of teh season too, don't you?

Expect some crap games once in a while still. Dalton is not stink proof by any means.

Even keel my friend. Good, bad, indifferent, just let the median be the norm regardless of the performance.

Go back and look at that four game stretch..... It wasn't 'great' by comparison. It's not even close to the three game stretch he is currently having. It just looked good because he was comically bad before it.