Name one position player they have developed over say the last 30 years other than Posey. I think you’d have to go back to Will Clark
Belt
Please! If Belt is the best that we can come up with in 30 years that proves my point. In that same time they developed a lot of excellent pitchers
A fella with the last name of Crawford was pretty damn good.
Dunno, could be something said all along the watchtower....by a Montleban.
Panik, Crawford, Belt, Sandoval, Posey, Ramos
He was pretty good but I certainly wouldn’t call him great. If it’s guys like belt and Crawford that you point to as the best since Will Clark that’s a pretty damning statement about development of position players by the Giants. The excellence in developing pitchers and the ineptitude of position player development is a real head scratcher especially for a team known for for innovative ways of finding players like Mays, McCovey, Cepeda, the Alou brothers, George Foster, Dave Kingman, Jack Clark, Bobby Bonds, Garry Maddox, Gary Mathew’s and so on
Yeah, I gotta give you that one. He was really good for a few years
Ramos? Are you kidding? Panik was decent for a year or two. Belt was not very good and Crawford was above average compared to his peers. but if we are basing 30 years of player development by those guys the Giants don’t get a passing grade
Nolan if you are going to be allowed back here (and I suspect you will be removed soon) you have to stop with the bullshit.
Judging by the Dodgers success I’d say that the way they do it is a much more effective way of doing things. It doesn’t hurt to have a bottomless pit of money but success breeds success and so players want to go there In today’s game you gotta spend money and if you don’t you better have a pretty good eye for players like the Twins do. The Giants don’t have that skill and for some reason even though they are willing to shell out the money, no one wants to play there. For a team with so much history and tradition it’s very surprising
My point was the difference between their stellar record with developing pitchers and their inability to develop hitters is very odd. Why the huge difference?
Respectfully disagree. Crawford was very good. He just wasn’t the ARod power guy. During a lot of his career, there were 25 other teams that would gladly take him as their starting SS. Was he a super star? No, not at all. But he was damn good.
Crawford suffered by comparison but he was an integral part of the championship teams so I gotta give you that.
Who knows? Inability is too strong a word but for sure pitchers they have a lot more success with. Maybe it's because of the major league park being so pitcher friendly?
Meh, if he behaves himself I have no problem with him
