Game Thread: Christmas Day Games Thread

[Hambombs]

You are just as delusional as Lakers fans.

Well look at the per minute basis and then come back to me

 

[bksballer89]

He's played like 3 games and came off the bench with little time. I'm talking about last year and all those other years

I agree with you on Lee. Very stupid to judge a guy who is on a minutes restriction. If Lee starts he is good for at least 17 & 10

 

[Mecca]

I disagree. Are we really judging a guy based on 3 games on a minute restriction? He has not played 20 minutes in any of the 3 games back as they're obviously trying to slowly bring him along. Since he came back he is avg 9.7 PPG & 5.7 RPG in 18 MPG....that's pretty solid.

Lee always got points and rebounds excluding his rookie year in NYC. If you start Lee, you can almost pencil him in for at least 17 & 10.

Lee pre-nerve damage, yes.

Is that the type of injury that gets better or worse?

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Rondo looked like Rod Strickland driving to the rim for layup after layup last night.

I like your team.

Once everyone gets comfortable in their roles, Dallas will be cooking with gas.

Just to be fair, a lot of players look like that against the Lakers defense. I'm questioning why Sacre gets any minutes at all, I'd just give Davis 35 mins a game instead of 5-10-15 mins of Sacre

 

[bksballer89]

Just for the record David Lee per 36 numbers this year is 21 & 10.

Please let not look like an idiot and criticize a player about their numbers when he is obviously on a minute restriction because he only played 1 game this season before this week.

Lee is a fine player and is a solid starting PF in this league

 

[bksballer89]

Lee pre-nerve damage, yes.

Is that the type of injury that gets better or worse?

We will see. His per 36 minute numbers look like they have looked his entire career so far. If he gets 30 MPG or more, I expect him to be around 16 & 10

 

[Mecca]

Bogut's games played (just the last 4 seasons):

12
32
67
20 of 28 so far

He's missed well over 30% of his career games.

That's a staggering amount....imo

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[Mecca]

Just to be fair, a lot of players look like that against the Lakers defense. I'm questioning why Sacre gets any minutes at all, I'd just give Davis 35 mins a game instead of 5-10-15 mins of Sacre

Agreed.

Unless all the other bigs are in the bathroom, no PT for Sacre

I read the the Cavs were interested in him.

Why not send Bron a belated mas gift?

 

[Mecca]

We will see. His per 36 minute numbers look like they have looked his entire career so far. If he gets 30 MPG or more, I expect him to be around 16 & 10

I have always liked David.

Manimal reminds me off him a bit.

The Warriors need he and Bogut healthy by playoff time if they expect to go far.

But, this is likely David's last Season in Golden State.

Unless he takes a SEVERE pay cut.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Agreed.

Unless all the other bigs are in the bathroom, no PT for Sacre

I read the the Cavs were interested in him.

Why not send Bron a belated mas gift?

Well, being completely honest Sacre does defend pretty decently and he has touch on his hook shot. It might be more about the combination of he and Boozer.

Even when Booze puts up a double-double off the bench there are moments where his defense is downright funny to watch. But I'd take Boozers offense over Sacre's defense at this point. If Bron wants him then he can have him in my personal opinion.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Also blocks is not a good indicator of great defense. It's a small indicator

I'm pretty sure I said that I wished the NBA would keep track of altered shots.

 

[DJ]

He's played like 3 games and came off the bench with little time. I'm talking about last year and all those other years

He had a serious injury and that just doesn't get better over night.

 

[DJ]

I agree with you on Lee. Very stupid to judge a guy who is on a minutes restriction. If Lee starts he is good for at least 17 & 10

Nerve damage doesn't just disappear, son.

 

[DJ]

He's missed well over 30% of his career games.

That's a staggering amount....imo

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I just posted the last 4 years since he's never going to play 75-82 games (in a season) again.

 

[bksballer89]

Nerve damage doesn't just disappear, son.

He has looked fine in limited minutes. In his 3 games this week in 18 MPG, he is avg 10 & 6.

Obviously with more minutes will come more points and more rebounding

 

[OutlawImmortal]

I just posted the last 4 years since he's never going to play 75-82 games (in a season) again.[/QUOTE]

Mecca pretty much said it, even the Warriors themselves wanted DeAndre instead of Bogut. It was considered a pretty hefty price at the time too since Jordan wasn't as consistent as he is now.

The people who think Bogut is a top 5 center right now are Hambombs and Hurricane. The only ones.

 

[bksballer89]

I just posted the last 4 years since he's never going to play 75-82 games (in a season) again.

Mecca pretty much said it, even the Warriors themselves wanted DeAndre instead of Bogut. It was considered a pretty hefty price at the time too since Jordan wasn't as consistent as he is now.

The people who think Bogut is a top 5 center right now are Hambombs and Hurricane. The only ones.[/QUOTE]

Bogut is not a top 5 center at all.

 

[Hambombs]

Mecca pretty much said it, even the Warriors themselves wanted DeAndre instead of Bogut. It was considered a pretty hefty price at the time too since Jordan wasn't as consistent as he is now.

The people who think Bogut is a top 5 center right now are Hambombs and Hurricane. The only ones.

Bogut is not a top 5 center at all.[/QUOTE]

He's pretty close IMO.

 

[bksballer89]

Bogut is not a top 5 center at all.

He's pretty close IMO.[/QUOTE]

That's news to me.

It's not even a debate. He's borderline top 10 IMO

 

[Hambombs]

He's pretty close IMO.

That's news to me.

It's not even a debate. He's borderline top 10 IMO[/QUOTE]

Borderline? I don't agree with that. He has huge impact on the game. He's a DEfensive player of the year type defender and brings a lot of other things to the table