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Doubtful.

Anyway I am excited for the win. As @58crash mentioned a tackle on Jamaal Charles well out of bounds alongside the non call on the PI were two pretty bad gaffes by the crew. I know Chargers fans are complaining about Roby hooking KA on his pick, but Roby was indeed called for PI a couple times and the contact he did have on his pick wasn't PI. He doesn't change KA's direction or interfere with him. KA went full bitch trying to sell the PI but thankfully the crew didn't buy it. Overall they could have done a better job but we say that about the refs every week so I guess it's no news there.

Again: it's still frustrating when refs call inconsistently but a lot easier to deal with after a win. Plus the offense seemed to lose its mojo after the pic. That wasn't the refs. It's still a work in progress but there is a lot of potential here.

A better opponent than the Chargers lies ahead.

Agreed not really much new when it comes to the refs missing calls. My favorite is actually when Shaq Barrett beat his guy around the Corner and Okung wraps him up from behind with no call with the ref standing right there. That was the long TD pass to Benjamin where there was a coverage blown. Shouldn't have been a TD.

1) As for the game definitely some promising things in this one. 3rd down efficiency was very nice. Loved the aggressive play calling to actually pick up 1st downs instead of throw it short of the sticks. I loved that the team was aggressive throwing down the field and Siemian was on point.

2) And Randymon I have to give credit where credit is due. Siemian impressed me this game and if he continues to play like that will quickly win me over that he could be the guy moving forward for this team. He showed decent poise with a collapsing pocket. He fit some throws into some tight windows. I loved that he used his feet to make some big plays and really on those runs he only had 1 run that he took a big hit so he was at least smart about it.
He still needs to eliminate the "oh crap he just threw a pick-6 oh wait thankfully it was dropped!" type plays that he has every once in a while. Going to give me a heart attack if he keeps that up. And his actual interception should have been a penalty of either defensive holding or DPI so can't really count that one.

3) We have a TE and 3rd WR sighting in this game! The Chargers actually have a very nice 1-2 punch at CB so the need for others to step up was a necessity. 3rd option players in Fowler and the TE's combined for 119 yards and 2 TD's. Not sure that ever happened last year.

4) Kind of connected to the last one but the ability to attack the middle of the field was so nice to see.

5) The run game looked pretty darn good. The team picked up some short yardage plays that did not happen often last year and both CJ and Charles showed to be a nice 1-2 combo. OL opened up some nice holes and got some good push.

6) Loved that the Bronco safeties/LB's held their own against the TE combo of Henry and Gates. Until the 4th quarter didn't even hardly notice those guys were playing. Justin Simmons especially had a very good 1st game. He had no missed tackles and from what I could tell wasn't even targeted during the game. He was out of position on the Allen TD though as it looked like Harris was getting after him for not helping on inside leverage. Still for him replacing TJ Ward very good first game. Darian Stewart did find himself out of position on that big TD to Benjamin as well so definitely some things to clean up but the age of TE's dominating this defense might not be the case moving forward.

7) Run defense outside of 1 run looked much improved. And that is with Kerr and Crick sitting out and our depth definitely being tested. Harris and Gotsis played lights out in this game. Love that we have depth at this position.

8) Up and down day for Roby. Big play obviously in the interception but was a bit too aggressive at times getting some really bad penalties called on him. He did have a tough match up though of the Broncos trusting him to line up against Allen quite a bit. I appreciate the confidence in him but still would rather see the Broncos move 1 of their 2 All-Pro CB's into that coverage and follow him throughout the game. They are getting paid for a reason.

9) Decent debut game for Bolles. Definitely blew a few blocking assignments but for a rookie LT going against Ingram and Bosa all night long I thought he handled the situation pretty well. Watson on the other hand is a huge liability. Saw the Broncos a couple of times try to give him some help but to me that needs to be more of an all game kind of thing for the most part. Chargers did it to Von almost the entire game and kept him in check.

10) Overall thought for a 1st game of the season against a divisional foe this was a very nice win. yeah let them back into it with a couple of bad turnovers (although both were pretty controversial), but some very promising things for this team moving forward. They showed me much more than I thought they would. I think it has been pretty clear on here that I don't have the highest expectations for this team this year and one game doesn't completely change that but like I said they showed more than I thought they could this early in the season with so many new moving parts.

For the most part I liked the playcalling on offense (until about half way through the 4th quarter and of course the 2 minute drill to end the half). McCoy showed some creativity that wasn't there last year or the year before.

Defensively Woods called a very good game until about half way into the 4th quarter. Not a fan of his play call when the Chargers have to throw to the sideline because of no timeouts and we bring this huge blitz giving Rivers an easy completion to the outside and moving them into easier field goal range.

And of course everybody's favorite new coach Olivo has to be very happy with how his special teams units produced. Punt coverage was down right impressive. Kick off coverage not much to talk about. Punt return we just saw on the very first return a bigger play than our special teams units produced all of last year. McKenzie got away with one on his 2nd return but hopefully that is a learning experience for him. Hated seeing McManus miss that field goal that could have really been a huge dagger for the team but it was beyond 50 yards so have to keep that in mind.
 

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Shelby Harris blocks Chargers chances at a comeback
Broncos TV's Matt Boyer talks with defensive end Shelby Harris on the field following Harris' game-saving field goal block to give the Broncos a 24-21 win over Los Angeles.

In every game so fare he has had impact
 

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Shelby Harris blocks Chargers chances at a comeback
Broncos TV's Matt Boyer talks with defensive end Shelby Harris on the field following Harris' game-saving field goal block to give the Broncos a 24-21 win over Los Angeles.

In every game so fare he has had impact

Anybody else listen to Vance Joseph after the game talk about that blocked field goal? Said when they were scouting the Chargers' kicker they noticed that he has a bit of a lower flight pattern especially from that hash mark through the B-Gap so they thought with Harris' athleticism/power he stood a chance of getting through and getting his hand on the ball. Just amazing the scouting teams do to find even the smallest of details they can exploit.
 

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Shelby Harris Seems to be a keeper hope we give him a decent contract
 

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From what I can see it was a one year contract I sure hope we give him a 4 year contract . Now because after the year he will be a UFA right ? if so gone .

Impact player get big money . He seems to always be in the right spot .
 

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From what I can see it was a one year contract I sure hope we give him a 4 year contract . Now because after the year he will be a UFA right ? if so gone .

Impact player get big money . He seems to always be in the right spot .

Exclusive rights. This is only his 3rd year in the NFL.
 

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Probably tender him then if he has a second really good season then he will get paid.
 

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Probably tender him then if he has a second really good season then he will get paid.


Hope you are right I get it accumulation..He has been in the NFL for ever this will be 4 years right but I guess the practice S Does not add up ?
 

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I take that back he would be restricted not exclusive, but basically same thing.

He is not unrestricted I can promise you that. He can't be by NFL rules. This is only his 3rd season as he missed a full year of football. He hasn't played long enough and signed street free agent contract. He was on the Cowboys PS very late in the year last year but that didn't qualify him as a season since he was never active roster participant.

The only difference between RFA and exclusive is that instead of signing him to a one year tender a team could sign him to an offer sheet, but the decision is still in our hands to keep him. He will likely sign a one year deal as a RFA making him an UFA the following year where h can hit the market. Of course this is all after just 1 game so depends on how his season goes really.

Who knows we could like him enough to lock him up this offseason or we could want to see one more year of him before paying him. Either way, it is in our hands. He comes with restrictions this offseason for another team to sign.
 

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We are 1-0. That's a heckuva lot better than 0-1.

Just wanted to brighten your day!
 

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Anyone else about puke last night when the comeback was going on?

Then I had to read Duffman going off the deep end and it made me even more nauseous.
 

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Anyone else about puke last night when the comeback was going on?

Then I had to read Duffman going off the deep end and it made me even more nauseous.

Was starting to feel like the Chiefs game last year where they blew the lead and our season derailed. Thankfully that was not the case this time around. Definitely a lot of positive to take away from the game but have to finish off those types of games and not allow another team to have some life. Turnovers were the only way the Chargers were getting back into that game and the Broncos did the very thing they could not do. Good learning experience for them and thankfully it isn't with them having to deal with learning from a loss.
 

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What do you guys think about the play calls after Davis stops Gordon on 4th and 1 at mid field. Up 24 - 7 go for the jugular or try to run clock. I hope they are a little more aggressive next time. Coaches play too often not to lose. I think the coaches need to start relying on the offense to win games. Will be better off in the long run.
 

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Plenty to like about this Broncos team last night - and plenty to take lessons from.

The Chargers played with focus and emotion - you have to hand it to them for that.

McCoy is great in a number of ways, but doesn't know how to play call with a lead.

Go Broncos!
 

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Melvin Ingram looked about as explosive and quick off the ball as any pass rusher I've seen.
 

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What do you guys think about the play calls after Davis stops Gordon on 4th and 1 at mid field. Up 24 - 7 go for the jugular or try to run clock. I hope they are a little more aggressive next time. Coaches play too often not to lose. I think the coaches need to start relying on the offense to win games. Will be better off in the long run.

I wanted to see the Broncos prove they could run it even when the opposing team knew they were going to run it. So I don't mind the plan to run the football. I wish they had gotten a little more creative than just trying to run straight up the gut. My personal play call right before the 2-minute warning especially would have been a sweep play with Jamaal Charles. The Chargers were having trouble setting an edge so go let your playmaker go make a play and redeem his fumble. Plus if he doesn't get it at least you force the Chargers to either use their last time out or let the clock go down to the 2 minute warning. Either way it is like they used a timeout. And if he picks it up game over.

Really to me without the turnovers the playcalling wouldn't be an issue. The fumble by Charles was with the offense moving the ball pretty well. He was close to a 1st down on that play if I remember right. So the turnovers more so than the playcalling were why that score was close.
 
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