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flamingrey

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LOL.

Why can't you just enjoy a team during a good stretch? Why is that so hard for you? You and Kramer are trying so hard not to be called a Homer, you can't even enjoy a dominating 3 game stretch by "our" favorite team. I use the word "our" loosely, because I am not really sure if the Bengals are yours and Kramers favorite team.

Just enjoy the F'n ride for now until you have something to actually bitch about. Why is that so hard?

I'm enjoying it just about as much as it can/should be enjoyed. Unlike you, I don't have ups and downs. I at least attempt to see things as they really are.

6 weeks ago, you were all giggly about this team. 3 weeks ago during the losing streak you were down about the team. And now again, a few weeks later, you're all over the bandwagon again.

Get a grip.
 

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its okay, when they get killed in the first round of the playoffs we will still have interesting games to watch from the other playoff teams.

The sad thing is people don't realize how this is hurting the team in the long run. Just about everyone - except Hobsin and Crash - sees that this team is going nowhere in the playoffs, assuming they even make it (we'd be able to thank all the crappy teams around us, not ourselves).

The ramifications?

1) Lewis buys himself even more time.
2) Worse draft pick.
3) Slightly harder schedule next season.

Number 1 is the big one. The remaining schedule isn't difficult by any means, but they're all games that we could easily lose, and I hope we do lose out the rest of the season. In fact, I hope the team implodes. That is the only way Marvin doesn't get another extension. I'm willing to take a step back in order to take a couple forward.

But then again, I'm not a real fan.
 

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" I may be going to hell in a bucket baby,but at least I'm enjoying the ride"
 

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I'm enjoying it just about as much as it can/should be enjoyed. Unlike you, I don't have ups and downs. I at least attempt to see things as they really are.

6 weeks ago, you were all giggly about this team. 3 weeks ago during the losing streak you were down about the team. And now again, a few weeks later, you're all over the bandwagon again.

Get a grip.

That is not not correct. I still think we miss the playoffs. I still think we have too many holes in our defense especially at LB and S to help us. I still think we are poorly coached. I jyst happen to enjoy the ride, so thereofre, I am not going to continue to come up with shit to sya about them during this week, because for Gods sake, we won, I don't give a crap who they were.

The Giants were 6-3. They beat 6 other teams, but not us.
The Chiefs were 1-8. They beat 1 other team, but not us.
The Raiders were 3-7. They beat 3 other teams, but not us.

93-29 is how much we have outscored those three teams by.

You can enjoy this a little more by saying somethign good about a couple aspects of the team can't you? How about saying something good about one part of the team that is playing better these past few weeks than in previous weeks, like for example, our secondary?
 

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The sad thing is people don't realize how this is hurting the team in the long run. Just about everyone - except Hobsin and Crash - sees that this team is going nowhere in the playoffs, assuming they even make it (we'd be able to thank all the crappy teams around us, not ourselves).

The ramifications?

1) Lewis buys himself even more time.
2) Worse draft pick.
3) Slightly harder schedule next season.

Number 1 is the big one. The remaining schedule isn't difficult by any means, but they're all games that we could easily lose, and I hope we do lose out the rest of the season. In fact, I hope the team implodes. That is the only way Marvin doesn't get another extension. I'm willing to take a step back in order to take a couple forward.

But then again, I'm not a real fan.

See how ridiculous you sound? You want us to lose, and you want us to lose badly, just so Marvin doesn't get another extension? This is Mike Brown you are talking about. He would given Marvin a 5 year extension after a 2-14 season if Marvin agrees to be Mike Browns minion and yes man, so the need for us to lsoe is meaningless.

You may as well root for us to win like a real fan would, not some yuppie downer.

You can continue to root for 2-14 seasons, with coaching turnovers (because there is no guarantee Mike Brown would know how to hire the right coach anyways), and can root for your favorite team to fold, to have no future. You are truely Bengalized, because you cannot be happy unless we are going 2-14. Truely pathetic. You might be the most pathetic loser I have ever seen.

Who gives a flying F about draft position? It is about winning football games. If you are going out to play for draft position and not to win games, your ass needs to be fired and banned from the league.

This is a professional football team. They care about wins. They care about the team in place. Not some fucking rookie that can help them next year, MAYBE. Do you think these guys do not have enough pride to try and win games? That tghe millions being paid to these guys is not enough to make them give their best?

So what, we go 9-7 in back to back years, and for the first time in 20+ years we have back to back winning seasons even though year one was 1 and done in teh playoffs, the second year was not quite good enough to make the playoffs. Are we really over achieving, or are we finally starting to fulfill some of that potential in this very very young team? Is winning seasons in back to back years really that bad for you.

You are fucking pathetic. Pouting like a little fucking girl. I either want a perfect season where we outscore our opponent 400 to 50, and win the SB, or I want us to go 0-16 and get the number 1 pick. Anything inbetween is unacceptable. Fucking patheitc. You are one weak individual. Grow a sack and quit whining like a little bitch.
 

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That is not not correct. I still think we miss the playoffs. I still think we have too many holes in our defense especially at LB and S to help us. I still think we are poorly coached. I jyst happen to enjoy the ride, so thereofre, I am not going to continue to come up with shit to sya about them during this week, because for Gods sake, we won, I don't give a crap who they were.

The Giants were 6-3. They beat 6 other teams, but not us.
The Chiefs were 1-8. They beat 1 other team, but not us.
The Raiders were 3-7. They beat 3 other teams, but not us.

93-29 is how much we have outscored those three teams by.

You can enjoy this a little more by saying somethign good about a couple aspects of the team can't you? How about saying something good about one part of the team that is playing better these past few weeks than in previous weeks, like for example, our secondary?

The secondary sucks. Lucky for them the Raiders don't have any receivers to exploit them or an o-line that can hold their QB up long enough to do so. Maualuga still sucks, but again, same story as the sad secondary. No need to sugar coat it.

When I actually see improvement, then I'll give credit. Playing better against crappy receivers than you did against better receivers is not improvement. Making fewer silly mistakes because there are fewer silly mistakes to be made is not improvement.

And everything I said in my post was correct.
 

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Who gives a flying F about draft position? It is about winning football games. If you are going out to play for draft position and not to win games, your ass needs to be fired and banned from the league.

This is a professional football team. They care about wins. They care about the team in place. Not some fucking rookie that can help them next year, MAYBE. Do you think these guys do not have enough pride to try and win games? That tghe millions being paid to these guys is not enough to make them give their best?

You are not part of the team. You are not a coach nor a player. You won't get fired for hoping for a long term approach to reach the ultimate goal of a SB. I care about wins too, but unlike you, I put more weight on wins that get you closer to a SB. So yes, to me draft position is important. Giving ourselves the best chance to get rid of a coach who is clearly not SB caliber is important. And if it takes a few more losses for a year or two, I'm all for it. And yes, I was on the "Suck for Luck" bandwagon. Rightfully so.

You are fucking pathetic. Pouting like a little fucking girl. I either want a perfect season where we outscore our opponent 400 to 50, and win the SB, or I want us to go 0-16 and get the number 1 pick. Anything inbetween is unacceptable. Fucking patheitc. You are one weak individual. Grow a sack and quit whining like a little bitch.

LOL.

This right here is the exact reason Brownie boy can do what he does and get away with it. You and fans like you are the problem. I've seen mediocrity for long enough (the last decade) and I'm tired of it. And I also know the quickest way out of it is to get worse first and bolster the talent. Mikey feeds off people like you who relish and will continue to relish this mediocrity.
 

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most of the AFC is kinda in the same boat.

New England, Houston, and maybe Denver seem legit. everyone else is just playing to keep their jobs, yea they are screwing up their draft position, but our drafts are generally kind of screwed up anyhow, I've started to lose faith in our ability to draft (aside from obvious picks like AJ Green)
 

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You are not part of the team. You are not a coach nor a player. You won't get fired for hoping for a long term approach to reach the ultimate goal of a SB. I care about wins too, but unlike you, I put more weight on wins that get you closer to a SB. So yes, to me draft position is important. Giving ourselves the best chance to get rid of a coach who is clearly not SB caliber is important. And if it takes a few more losses for a year or two, I'm all for it. And yes, I was on the "Suck for Luck" bandwagon. Rightfully so.



LOL.

This right here is the exact reason Brownie boy can do what he does and get away with it. You and fans like you are the problem. I've seen mediocrity for long enough (the last decade) and I'm tired of it. And I also know the quickest way out of it is to get worse first and bolster the talent. Mikey feeds off people like you who relish and will continue to relish this mediocrity.

You are damn right, he feeds off FANS like me. I don't care if we were one loss away from drafting Andrew Luck last year, I would have rooted for a win.

All I care about are wins, not how we got them, or who we played, but that we actually got them.

There is no long term solution to this mess with Mike Brown running this organization, because you can't trust him to always make the right decision personnell wise, so hoping Lewis gets fired only sets us up to have Bresnahan to get hired as our next head coach.

There are no guarantees with Mike Brown, whether it be the #1 pick, or a new coaching decision. So to hope for a possible worse situation is fucking pathetic. Just root for the team you have, because you are not party of this team either and the thing that should be most important to you as a fan, and the only thing you should care about is wins. If that is not the case, you are not a fan, plain and simple. I don't care how you want to spin that shit. You can become the spin doctor just like Hobsin, but in the end, you are either a fan and root for wins no matter the situation, or you are not a fan at all, plain and simple. There is NO OTHER TRUTH!
 

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You are damn right, he feeds off FANS like me. I don't care if we were one loss away from drafting Andrew Luck last year, I would have rooted for a win.

That's all I needed to know.
 

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I've seen mediocrity for long enough (the last decade) and I'm tired of it. And I also know the quickest way out of it is to get worse first and bolster the talent. Mikey feeds off people like you who relish and will continue to relish this mediocrity.


Says the guy who is so obsessed with Carson Palmer, a proven below average NFL QB, that you have taken the time to post video compilations of each of his games he has played for the Raiders detailing every throw and still defending him as a superior QB.
 

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I still visit espn for the Reds board. If the SportsHoopla Reds board ever wakes up I would be completely done with espn, as they suck donkey dicks.
 

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I still visit espn for the Reds board. If the SportsHoopla Reds board ever wakes up I would be completely done with espn, as they suck donkey dicks.

RedLegs Baseball Message Board - Home

One of the Reds sites I visit. Give her a look.

However, I will try to remember to post on the Reds board here at SportsHoopla also.
 
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